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Re: Press Release 5/20 "The Beginning in the End"
i promise u if u watch that episode now u will pick up on everything i did
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Whatever it might be, I don't believe it: there was the same 'hint' in S4 finale, the infamous "A year ago". I don't buy it again. Not going to happen.treble21 wrote:so they tell us in predator that B/B are going to be together in a year? or apart for a year?
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i believe it all the signs r there
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mereva wrote:Whatever it might be, I don't believe it: there was the same 'hint' in S4 finale, the infamous "A year ago". I don't buy it again. Not going to happen.treble21 wrote:so they tell us in predator that B/B are going to be together in a year? or apart for a year?
I thought the hint in the S4 finale was that Brennan will realized that she not only loves Booth, but she can be with him for 30 or 40 or 50 yrs. because Hodgins says that is "she the same person a day ago, a year ago" and then maybe they will get together in the S6 finale. But I don't think they will spend a year apart because according to Ausiello, Bones is not the show that will jump in time.
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I've watched predator like 4 times and I never picked up on that, you could be right, but I don't think the writers are that detailed, their hints are usually a lot more blatent ( think the quote on the wall at the end of the 100th) this is more like something the writers on Lost would pull.
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they r that detailed watch it one more time.listen when everyone in the show keeps talking about what happens between the hours of midnight and 6 am.how the murderer is a LION fish. what the 5 rules that jazz gunn lives buy
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how angela says cofee means nothing and how dinner is mentioned in this episode and all the other episodes ,starting with anock (a night at the meuseum)
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As much as I'd like to believe some of the clues, some are very very deep. I know the writers have dropped some clues in the past but not that many in one episode.
One of my favorite clues in the past was when Booth said to the wife of a suspect. ''When a man can't have, the woman that he loves, he gets a bit crazy''
One of my favorite clues in the past was when Booth said to the wife of a suspect. ''When a man can't have, the woman that he loves, he gets a bit crazy''
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i love that episode too. please please please whoever has doubts watch the pitp again and if u have any ques post them here and ill try and show u everything that i picked up on. the reason i thk he put all the clues in tpitp is because hh knew we would hate this episode and had to find a way to make it barerable to watch
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Nope...not buying it!!! lol.
That Girl...no offense intended, but , I don't even understand the point you're trying to make, let alone see any hidden meaning in that stuff you're talking about.
I see obvious things...like 'message in coffee?' Yes, you can have coffee without having sex! Brennan and Booth have been doing it for years.
Excellerated rate of coral growth? what's that supposed to mean? other than pertaining to that murder. I think it's like the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon game. By the time you connect through 6 or 7 barely coincidental; simlarly vague metaphores, you can draw any conclusion you like. He could be saying...becuase coral grows fast...we could see things happen extra fast with CatFish and Booth...or Hacker and Bren...it could mean anything you want it to mean. I think while you're looking for sub-atomic level secret messages, you're missing the point of the obvious ones.
Yes they're leading toward something...but none of us knows at what pace. I think the only things that truly are harbingers.. "Nothing happens without first a dream".... and I think that this is Hart's way of saying..."Remember that dream? You all blasted me to within an inch of my life, but I had a plan...don't hate me for it, becuase it was my way of setting up the future of the show without giving it all away at the end of season 4." And that's all it means. He drempt it...it's going to happen...it a matter of when. Hart is very literal. He's doesn't play vague encripted messages that are so vague only sci-fi junkies and Lost bloggers get them. He gives you poetic, not too hard to understand literal metaphors.
The messages I'm getting pertaining to Catherine...and Hacker are...they're not important...they're B&B's attempt to move on, but both are just not that into the other beyond someone to hang out with...period. Brennan is a tiny bit jealous, but she's got it all locked away. Booth is enjoying the fact that someone openly appreciates him, but it actually hurts him to hear Brennan talk about it, because he's just not feelin Catherine...and he wishes it were Brennan...he's not even aware that Brennan is jealous. To him it feels like she doesn't care at all. He was actually pleasantly surprised when Bren said "Our partnership is still important to me" Brennan is letting Booth know that she doesn't intent to have sex with Hacker, becuase if she doesn't have sex with Hacker it obligates Booth to not have sex with Catherine...it wouldn't be honorable. She's not even aware of this...it's innate in her ... She thinks she is giving him permission, but really she's not! Because I think she would be very upset if he did. And he knows that he would be upset too becuase to him sex is important. It's making love...and you can't make love to someone, when you are in love with someone else.
The theme of the Finale is hoarding. Brennan is a hoarder; hoarding away her feelings, locking out the world of Love becuase along with it comes the chance of pain..broken trust...entrophy. Booth is also a hoarder... He hangs on to everything...momentos, trophys, pictures, guilt...and the women in his life that he either feels like he failed, or that he's afraid to let down. He's loyal, but to the point of costing himself happiness. Why? ...I suspect we will find out more when we learn more about his background...but I suspect it has to do with, not only an abusive alcoholic father, who one day disapppeared with no explaination, but with his mother...who obviously left the picture before his father since Pops says he was left alone with two boys to raise. Booth hoards love...he hoards the people he loves...to the exclusion of his needs. I think that this is going to be the thing that will cause the tears and happiness in this episode. Both realizing that unless they make some big changes to themselves...take some risks and make some moves...they could both end up just like this guy! Missing the chance at life...becuase they can't let go of STUFF!
No secret sub-atomic subtext necessary...
That Girl...no offense intended, but , I don't even understand the point you're trying to make, let alone see any hidden meaning in that stuff you're talking about.
I see obvious things...like 'message in coffee?' Yes, you can have coffee without having sex! Brennan and Booth have been doing it for years.
Excellerated rate of coral growth? what's that supposed to mean? other than pertaining to that murder. I think it's like the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon game. By the time you connect through 6 or 7 barely coincidental; simlarly vague metaphores, you can draw any conclusion you like. He could be saying...becuase coral grows fast...we could see things happen extra fast with CatFish and Booth...or Hacker and Bren...it could mean anything you want it to mean. I think while you're looking for sub-atomic level secret messages, you're missing the point of the obvious ones.
Yes they're leading toward something...but none of us knows at what pace. I think the only things that truly are harbingers.. "Nothing happens without first a dream".... and I think that this is Hart's way of saying..."Remember that dream? You all blasted me to within an inch of my life, but I had a plan...don't hate me for it, becuase it was my way of setting up the future of the show without giving it all away at the end of season 4." And that's all it means. He drempt it...it's going to happen...it a matter of when. Hart is very literal. He's doesn't play vague encripted messages that are so vague only sci-fi junkies and Lost bloggers get them. He gives you poetic, not too hard to understand literal metaphors.
The messages I'm getting pertaining to Catherine...and Hacker are...they're not important...they're B&B's attempt to move on, but both are just not that into the other beyond someone to hang out with...period. Brennan is a tiny bit jealous, but she's got it all locked away. Booth is enjoying the fact that someone openly appreciates him, but it actually hurts him to hear Brennan talk about it, because he's just not feelin Catherine...and he wishes it were Brennan...he's not even aware that Brennan is jealous. To him it feels like she doesn't care at all. He was actually pleasantly surprised when Bren said "Our partnership is still important to me" Brennan is letting Booth know that she doesn't intent to have sex with Hacker, becuase if she doesn't have sex with Hacker it obligates Booth to not have sex with Catherine...it wouldn't be honorable. She's not even aware of this...it's innate in her ... She thinks she is giving him permission, but really she's not! Because I think she would be very upset if he did. And he knows that he would be upset too becuase to him sex is important. It's making love...and you can't make love to someone, when you are in love with someone else.
The theme of the Finale is hoarding. Brennan is a hoarder; hoarding away her feelings, locking out the world of Love becuase along with it comes the chance of pain..broken trust...entrophy. Booth is also a hoarder... He hangs on to everything...momentos, trophys, pictures, guilt...and the women in his life that he either feels like he failed, or that he's afraid to let down. He's loyal, but to the point of costing himself happiness. Why? ...I suspect we will find out more when we learn more about his background...but I suspect it has to do with, not only an abusive alcoholic father, who one day disapppeared with no explaination, but with his mother...who obviously left the picture before his father since Pops says he was left alone with two boys to raise. Booth hoards love...he hoards the people he loves...to the exclusion of his needs. I think that this is going to be the thing that will cause the tears and happiness in this episode. Both realizing that unless they make some big changes to themselves...take some risks and make some moves...they could both end up just like this guy! Missing the chance at life...becuase they can't let go of STUFF!
No secret sub-atomic subtext necessary...
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That girl- You could be right, but HH has been very literal and obvious with his clues like the quote in the 100th, which he added to give us a little hope that they will get together eventually, but we don't know when. I think the secret messages sound more something writers for Lost would do and only sci-fi junkies would get.
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the secret message is that they will have sex and deny it to everyone so they can still have a season 6.
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and hoggins will find out .i just dont know when (right away or in season 6)btw mamahurley i agree with everything u wrote too bt i still stand by what i think the finale will be . another clue HH gave us is the devil in the details when that looney girls paints a picture bt there is another picture under it .HH was trying to tell us that an underlying story was coming in the future episodes
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this entire thread looks like an episode of the X-Files
the truth is out there SOMEwhere in previous Bones episodes.
HH would be the person to hide something as big as having sex but can they really hide that from the spoilers these days??
It would be interesting if they have sex in the final epi, but I don't want them to have sex for the sake of ''lets see what it's like before we run in opposite directions''
the truth is out there SOMEwhere in previous Bones episodes.
HH would be the person to hide something as big as having sex but can they really hide that from the spoilers these days??
It would be interesting if they have sex in the final epi, but I don't want them to have sex for the sake of ''lets see what it's like before we run in opposite directions''
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its not going to be that way she will realize her love for booth(youve been seeing that in the last couple of episodes )i guess well have to wait till may 20th .i just wish someone would watch that episode again after they saw what i posted and see if im on to something.
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"Unique oppritunities....what?! They are going to make it impossilble for us to make it through the summer, aren't they? lol!
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yes they are!!!!
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I still have think that they might have sex (or make love in this case) and then go their separate ways. But I'm surprised that if they do have real sex, how it hasn't been leaked out to the press yet, but ever since the S4 finale, HH isn't going to give anything huge away about the finale and if they do have sex for reals, I'm sure that he will do whatever he can to make sure nobody knows until May 20th. But I also think that Brennan will have to tell Booth and prove to him how she feels because she is afraid of losing him and she will lose him if she doesn't open herself up and proved to him.
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jro54 wrote:I still have think that they might have sex (or make love in this case) and then go their separate ways. But I'm surprised that if they do have real sex, how it hasn't been leaked out to the press yet, but ever since the S4 finale, HH isn't going to give anything huge away about the finale and if they do have sex for reals, I'm sure that he will do whatever he can to make sure nobody knows until May 20th.
I think they will either like you said "make love" and go their seperate ways(decide to spend some time apart to assess their true feelings) or Brennan will confes her feelings and Booth will be unsure...they decided to spend a year apart to, once again, reevaluate their feelings,but of course they can't be away from each other that long (or a case brings them back) so the beginning of Season 6 will have them returning early.
As sad as it is I think they leave each other in someway...looks like we'd better stock up on some tissues for the finale!
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JessLayne wrote:jro54 wrote:I still have think that they might have sex (or make love in this case) and then go their separate ways. But I'm surprised that if they do have real sex, how it hasn't been leaked out to the press yet, but ever since the S4 finale, HH isn't going to give anything huge away about the finale and if they do have sex for reals, I'm sure that he will do whatever he can to make sure nobody knows until May 20th.
I think they will either like you said "make love" and go their seperate ways(decide to spend some time apart to assess their true feelings) or Brennan will confes her feelings and Booth will be unsure...they decided to spend a year apart to, once again, reevaluate their feelings,but of course they can't be away from each other that long (or a case brings them back) so the beginning of Season 6 will have them returning early.
As sad as it is I think they leave each other in someway...looks like we'd better stock up on some tissues for the finale!
Those two theories seem to be the most plausible. But I don't think the finale will that bad because , they have never a cliffhanger that leaves us with an angsty summer of wondering what will happen (unless you count the S4 finale, but I don't see as cliffhanger) HH always leaves us wondering what will happen, but it's never a bad feeling. And I can't think anything that could possibly happen that would be as bad as the 100th ending. Yes, Booth could reject her, but I doubt he'll be like "I don't think I love you anymore," because he's loved her for 6 years and he can't just get over her that fast. Realistically, he would probably do it because he is afraid to put his heart on the line again or because he needs time to heal because he tends to hold to emotions like love and guilt.
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thatgirl61 wrote:and hoggins will find out .i just dont know when (right away or in season 6)btw mamahurley i agree with everything u wrote too bt i still stand by what i think the finale will be . another clue HH gave us is the devil in the details when that looney girls paints a picture bt there is another picture under it .HH was trying to tell us that an underlying story was coming in the future episodes
sorry but this has been driving me absolutely nuts (ignore my ocd but I had to point it out) it's Hodgins
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thatgirl61 wrote:its not going to be that way she will realize her love for booth(youve been seeing that in the last couple of episodes )i guess well have to wait till may 20th .i just wish someone would watch that episode again after they saw what i posted and see if im on to something.
rewatched, and I get what your saying ( sorta) but still think you may be reading way to much into that episode, the writers for this show tend to be very literal, and yes they do sometimes put clues in the speeches of the regular characters ( actually they do this alot) but they rarely do it in when they are discussing the actual forensics ( it usually occurs when discussing motive, or emotional implications of the case)
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For what it's worth, does anyone remember a spoiler awhile back that on both "House" and "Bones" the main couples were going to finally "do the deed" - as opposed to the fantasy sex that happened in their previous finales?
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from what i got out of tpitp .they r going to make love in the finale and u can c how brennan is so heartbreaking in love with booth and i think she will cave only if she knows it will be kept a secret betweeen themselves .they will go on there seperste way not a year bt maybe 6 months (i dont even doubt that booth will visit her to be together) and in season 6 when they come back (the show will b on hiatius) they will hopefully have a secret affair(how awesome would that be)and they will be able to show there feelings slowly bt openly
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joybrennan wrote:For what it's worth, does anyone remember a spoiler awhile back that on both "House" and "Bones" the main couples were going to finally "do the deed" - as opposed to the fantasy sex that happened in their previous finales?
I don't remember hearing that but ..... that would be awesome, if it happens.
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