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Post by gordongordonfan Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:25 pm

Treble- Thanks! Very Happy I enterred it on a whim but I never EVER win stuff, and low and behold my surprise when I had an email this morning saying I was one of 3 winners. My day was going crappy too, so it was an awesome way to turn it around! Saves me some "green" since I was gonna go buy it this weekend! :-)
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Post by AmandaMarshall Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:28 pm

joybrennan wrote:The Jersey shore stuff, I'm sure some of it funny - I remember smiling at the Richie! scene. I just really never got over the sex opening - It basically ruined any enjoyment I might have gotten out of it - and I turned it off the second it hit the scene. I know people have been like to show it's all about sex and just sex, or that he's been engaging in "crappy sex." I'm sorry, he is NOT having crappy sex. Rolling Eyes The idea of him touching Brennan after being with her is puke The same way th Rebecca/Cam thing bugged me, and honestly, the Wendall/Jack thing did too. Like, we get these hot scenes with Wendall and Angela, they break up and like 2-3 eps later she's marrying Jack and everyone is fine because, well "Jack was her 'true' love." Rolling Eyes I'm sorry, but the body remembers, especially when the episodes are close together. Like if your guy cheated on you, but you're able to forgive him, it STILL takes a while before it feels ok for him to touch you without thinking of that other woman he was with. The guy, too. The comparison is still THERE, and it has nothing to do with if he "loves" you - even if the sex with you is "better." It takes awhile to get that third party out of your bed. Seeing Booth in bed with blondzilla is just painful, and it doesn't make me feel good about them being together anytime soon, it would just feel WRONG to me- even though, yeah, the blonde was just the rebound girl. Having their sex life thrown at me, she's now in the way. Even when she's gone, she's still be there. Sad I know this is just the way I feel about it. I'm not saying I'm right, or this is the only way to look at it. It is though what has made me feel so awful about this whole S.O. thing. I guess if it had happened earlier it wouldn't bother me so much because there would be time and space between the relationship and his realization that he loves Brennan. Having it happen in season six... No

So, yeah, JB is sappy underneath it all...[Only admins are allowed to see this link] Crying or Very sad Embarassed

Would you just stop whining already. I think by now everyone knows how YOU feel. Honestly, I have tried really hard to forebear but you are really taking the joy (pun intended) out of this thread.

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Post by joybrennan Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:48 pm

AmandaMarshall wrote:
joybrennan wrote:The Jersey shore stuff, I'm sure some of it funny - I remember smiling at the Richie! scene. I just really never got over the sex opening - It basically ruined any enjoyment I might have gotten out of it - and I turned it off the second it hit the scene. I know people have been like to show it's all about sex and just sex, or that he's been engaging in "crappy sex." I'm sorry, he is NOT having crappy sex. Rolling Eyes The idea of him touching Brennan after being with her is puke The same way th Rebecca/Cam thing bugged me, and honestly, the Wendall/Jack thing did too. Like, we get these hot scenes with Wendall and Angela, they break up and like 2-3 eps later she's marrying Jack and everyone is fine because, well "Jack was her 'true' love." Rolling Eyes I'm sorry, but the body remembers, especially when the episodes are close together. Like if your guy cheated on you, but you're able to forgive him, it STILL takes a while before it feels ok for him to touch you without thinking of that other woman he was with. The guy, too. The comparison is still THERE, and it has nothing to do with if he "loves" you - even if the sex with you is "better." It takes awhile to get that third party out of your bed. Seeing Booth in bed with blondzilla is just painful, and it doesn't make me feel good about them being together anytime soon, it would just feel WRONG to me- even though, yeah, the blonde was just the rebound girl. Having their sex life thrown at me, she's now in the way. Even when she's gone, she's still be there. Sad I know this is just the way I feel about it. I'm not saying I'm right, or this is the only way to look at it. It is though what has made me feel so awful about this whole S.O. thing. I guess if it had happened earlier it wouldn't bother me so much because there would be time and space between the relationship and his realization that he loves Brennan. Having it happen in season six... No

So, yeah, JB is sappy underneath it all...[Only admins are allowed to see this link] Crying or Very sad Embarassed

Would you just stop whining already. I think by now everyone knows how YOU feel. Honestly, I have tried really hard to forebear but you are really taking the joy (pun intended) out of this
thread.

Tough luck, You do realize you are WAY off topic, right? firedevil
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Post by treble21 Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:57 pm

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Post by AmandaMarshall Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:29 pm

treble21 wrote:
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Sorry, I had a Howard Beale moment. Embarassed

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Post by G Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:50 pm

4Q.............hahahahahahahahaha. I wonder if they had an argument with the sensors about that one!
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Post by Cassiopeia Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:24 pm

I am actally so stoopid in english language that i needed to see that "4q" thing out from google. Now that I understand this, it makes this even more funnier. Thanks for pointning that out, G Smile

Overall, very-very likable episode. I am glad that Hart & Co has got back their mojo.
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Post by Sarah9488 Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:34 pm

bailey wrote:
I think I've read every post in this thread and I haven't seen anyone else point this out but exactly when did Brennan get a TV??

Yeah, that made me wonder too... But than I was too excited about that episode that I forgot to mention it.

Cassiopeia wrote:I am actally so stoopid in english language that i needed to see that "4q" thing out from google. Now that I understand this, it makes this even more funnier. Thanks for pointning that out, G Smile

I had similar problems... When Sweets said "That self-explanable" or so I thought "No, it's not... please explain" but after about 5 minutes I finally got it... lol
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Post by lancelot Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:53 pm


I loved the line where they're in the club and Brennan looks at the couple dancing and says, "that activity means they're going to be mating soon."
That was a laugh out loud moment for me.

And thank you writers for the disclaimer that these people are not all Italians.

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Post by andreana22 Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:56 pm

I did it! I read every post so far! Couple of comments.

There seem to be so many hints on Hannah's side that the relationship is only temporary. Her being a trouble maker, not being happy working in Washington, DC but doing it because she didn't like sleeping alone, only having a few bags because she's the kind of person who never stays too long in one place. The great sex, but not making love. She doesn't know what Booth would like for a gift and has to ask Brennan.

But Booth is all about commitment. Showing her picture to everyone, her moving in with him. Making mac and cheese for her when he told Bones cooking is a way to show you love someone.

Btw, some people didn't like that Booth was talking about making his famous mac and cheese when Bones was the one who made him mac and cheese. I don't think it was a slip up. I think the writers wanted us to remember that and show how he had taken something that was B&B and was sharing it now with Hannah because he's moved on and is in love with her now.

It is obvious to us what's going on and I think to others around them. But I wonder which one of the principal characters in the middle will figure it out? I think Hannah because she's an investigative reporter and doesn't sound like she's in it for the long haul.


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Post by gordongordonfan Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:32 am

I was thrown by the 'mac and cheese' thing for sure. Thought it was another slip up (but a big enough deal was made of it when Bones cooked it before, and the dish was talked about the whole episode when Chef Carli died... so that would be a pretty hard thing to forget and slip up about I guess!) I can see what your saying about the reasons for it being in there, and it does make sense.

And that's what I was saying about the sex too....that I was actually GLAD there is so much 'sex' b/n Hannah and Booth. Of course no one wants to 'see' that... but everyone knows this couple would be having sex, and by showing it as such a 'focus' on screen I think it is indeed showing that sex and fun are driving this relationship right now! We've never seen "tender" b/n Hannah and Booth- just "intense". And what's that quote about intensity "burning away"? Wink
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Post by Pat Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:53 am

joybrennan wrote:The idea of him touching Brennan after being with her is puke Seeing Booth in bed with blondzilla is just painful, and it doesn't make me feel good about them being together anytime soon, it would just feel WRONG to me- even though, yeah, the blonde was just the rebound girl. Having their sex life thrown at me, she's now in the way. Even when she's gone, she's still be there.


Amen! I keep trying to quiet my real-life sensibilities but, unless this whole sequence is a dream, I am going to have trouble enjoying B/B sex.


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Post by lancelot Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:02 am

gordongordonfan wrote:I was thrown by the 'mac and cheese' thing for sure. Thought it was another slip up (but a big enough deal was made of it when Bones cooked it before, and the dish was talked about the whole episode when Chef Carli died... so that would be a pretty hard thing to forget and slip up about I guess!) I can see what your saying about the reasons for it being in there, and it does make sense.

And that's what I was saying about the sex too....that I was actually GLAD there is so much 'sex' b/n Hannah and Booth. Of course no one wants to 'see' that... but everyone knows this couple would be having sex, and by showing it as such a 'focus' on screen I think it is indeed showing that sex and fun are driving this relationship right now! We've never seen "tender" b/n Hannah and Booth- just "intense". And what's that quote about intensity "burning away"? Wink

Yes yes yes. That's exactly it.

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Post by joybrennan Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:08 am

lancelot wrote:
gordongordonfan wrote:I was thrown by the 'mac and cheese' thing for sure. Thought it was another slip up (but a big enough deal was made of it when Bones cooked it before, and the dish was talked about the whole episode when Chef Carli died... so that would be a pretty hard thing to forget and slip up about I guess!) I can see what your saying about the reasons for it being in there, and it does make sense.

And that's what I was saying about the sex too....that I was actually GLAD there is so much 'sex' b/n Hannah and Booth. Of course no one wants to 'see' that... but everyone knows this couple would be having sex, and by showing it as such a 'focus' on screen I think it is indeed showing that sex and fun are driving this relationship right now! We've never seen "tender" b/n Hannah and Booth- just "intense". And what's that quote about intensity "burning away"? Wink

Yes yes yes. That's exactly it.

....because sex with the one you love should be mild and sweet? Seriously, I don't get this. confused
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Post by lancelot Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:11 am

No, but there being intentional about what we (the viewers) are seeing. If we were supposed to think they were deeply in love they'd show a different version of their intimacy (at least once). Of course it could change in the next episode, who knows?

I think the "see you tomorrow" was more intimate than he's said anything to Hannah. Hell, his congratulations to Angela was more intimate than he talks to Hannah.

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Post by joybrennan Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:34 am

Right...but we KNOW about B&B's emotion intimacy. If they were to get together physically in the next year or two we now have all these damn images of Booth with Blondzilla to compare with...folks are still upset about Sully from season two! If B&B had gotten together sexually that season, or even in season three it would have felt weird and wrong to me also - and they didn't have the level or history and connection that they have now. I just find it disturbing to think THIS is supposed to bring B8B closer together. Then again I've also never subscribed to the idea that having an affair can help a marriage either. Some people do.
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Post by flyersfan35 Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:47 am

joybrennan wrote:Right...but we KNOW about B&B's emotion intimacy. If they were to get together physically in the next year or two we now have all these damn images of Booth with Blondzilla to compare with...folks are still upset about Sully from season two! If B&B had gotten together sexually that season, or even in season three it would have felt weird and wrong to me also - and they didn't have the level or history and connection that they have now. I just find it disturbing to think THIS is supposed to bring B8B closer together. Then again I've also never subscribed to the idea that having an affair can help a marriage either. Some people do.
He's not having an affair...he's dating! They are not involved with one another. You're telling me that you would never date or marry someone who had a prior relationship?? Granted, we all know that he and Brennan belong together, and that it will happen eventually, but at the moment, he's trying to move on. And this happens in real life all the time...my sister and her husband knew each other for years and years before they finally realized they were perfect for each other and got together. Same with my husband and I...we were both dating other people when we met, broke up with them, then dated other people again before we got married. And I certainly didn't obsess over him having sex with his ex girlfriends.
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Post by joybrennan Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:28 am

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joybrennan wrote:Right...but we KNOW about B&B's emotion intimacy. If they were to get together physically in the next year or two we now have all these damn images of Booth with Blondzilla to compare with...folks are still upset about Sully from season two! If B&B had gotten together sexually that season, or even in season three it would have felt weird and wrong to me also - and they didn't have the level or history and connection that they have now. I just find it disturbing to think THIS is supposed to bring B8B closer together. Then again I've also never subscribed to the idea that having an affair can help a marriage either. Some people do.
He's not having an affair...he's dating! They are not involved with one another. You're telling me that you would never date or marry someone who had a prior relationship?? Granted, we all know that he and Brennan belong together, and that it will happen eventually, but at the moment, he's trying to move on. And this happens in real life all the time...my sister and her husband knew each other for years and years before they finally realized they were perfect for each other and got together. Same with my husband and I...we were both dating other people when we met, broke up with them, then dated other people again before we got married. And I certainly didn't obsess over him having sex with his ex girlfriends.

Look, I responded to Lancelot's post because I'm trying to process this storyline for myself. Nor was trying to say Booth was having an affair, just that the sentiment seems similar to me. Angela also pointed out that "You guys were a couple, you just weren't having sex." And DB always says "they're already married." For me, they feel like a couple and part of the pain and angst going on is that it feels like a couple in a big fight or seperation, not a relationship that's over to be rekindled at a later date.

Now, I get what your life experience is, and I can respect that. At the same time not everyone feels the same way about such things. Also sounds like you had a lot of space inbetween before you got together. Season 25...B&B finally get together. Shocked

I'm sorry if this line of questioning bothers you so much, but it as much a part of show discussion as "what was up with Booth's 'famous' mac & cheese, or was the guido thing funny or overdone.. While I may be the most verbal about it, I know I'm not the only one dealing with it. And the only reason I'm talking about it at all is that I've loved the show from day one and I really want to see my way through it. You can always skip my posts if they're so bothersome. I won't take it personally. It's a big board; I think it can handle a lot of different discussions, Just take what you want and leave the rest.

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Post by flyersfan35 Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:34 am

I was discussing your post, and giving my opinion. How silly of me to think it was appropriate to discuss the show here.

And btw, I never said your posts were bothersome...like I said, I thought I was having an intelligent conversation. Don't worry, I won't make that same mistake again.


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Post by joybrennan Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:51 am

flyersfan35 wrote:Wow, I thought this was the discussion thread. I was discussing your post, and giving my opinion. How silly of me to think it was appropriate to discuss the show here.

And btw, I never said your posts were bothersome...like I said, I thought I was having an intelligent conversation. Don't worry, I won't make that same mistake again.
I responded to what you wrote, and have written as responses to me before. You've made it pretty clear that you don't like what I write about, which is why I assumed you found my posts bothersome. If they aren't, then all the better. I also did not negate your opinion or feedback in my post nor suggest that you shouldn't have them. I answered the questions and points that you brought up. I belive I even said I respect your experience. I certainly didn't say it wasn't okay to discuss the show, inIn fact I said that there was room for various kinds of discussion... In short, I don't understand your reaction. confused
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Post by bailey Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:55 am

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Post by lexie1982 Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:08 am

I can see both sides of the above arguement. On the one hand, I understand how its hard to watch Booth with the new gf and believe that once that relationship is done (and there has already been SO much foreshadowing that it is temporary) he will be able to convince Brennan that he has really loved her all along. I also understand the viewpoint that is willing to accept Booth having a girlfriend for now without thinking that it takes anything away from how he feels for Brennan. My dad was engaged to a woman for a little while before the issue of kids became a deal breaker for them (she didnt want any). He started dating my mother shortly after and they have been married over 30 years. I guess I can just understand that what my dad had with this other woman doesnt take anything away from how he feels for my mother, and his marriage to my mother doesnt mean that the other relationship was insignificant. I think Miss Hannah will be to Booth something like the other woman was to my dad. By the way-Im new here and would like to say that I joined because I really have enjoyed reading such intelligent discussion about my faveorite show and thought I would join in!

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Post by joybrennan Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:24 am

lexie1982 wrote:I can see both sides of the above arguement. On the one hand, I understand how its hard to watch Booth with the new gf and believe that once that relationship is done (and there has already been SO much foreshadowing that it is temporary) he will be able to convince Brennan that he has really loved her all along. I also understand the viewpoint that is willing to accept Booth having a girlfriend for now without thinking that it takes anything away from how he feels for Brennan. My dad was engaged to a woman for a little while before the issue of kids became a deal breaker for them (she didnt want any). He started dating my mother shortly after and they have been married over 30 years. I guess I can just understand that what my dad had with this other woman doesnt take anything away from how he feels for my mother, and his marriage to my mother doesnt mean that the other relationship was insignificant. I think Miss Hannah will be to Booth something like the other woman was to my dad. By the way-Im new here and would like to say that I joined because I really have enjoyed reading such intelligent discussion about my faveorite show and thought I would join in!

THANK YOU for your post, and welcome to the Aby. Smile I found your post helpful in that I think I just pinpointed what's bugging me. Despite the words of the 100th, it has never felt like a clean break. Awkward and uncomfortable - yes. But with that finale ending it did NOT feel "over" between them - not to me, anyway. It felt like they were going to try and work things out when they got back. Now, at least I know what part of the story I need to focus on to try shift my point of view - which I have been trying to figure out pretty much since the damn storyline was introduced. Really, REALLY helpful. It's been driving me nuts! THANK YOU! I love you


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Post by lexie1982 Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:38 am

You are quite welcome! Very Happy And I understand what was bugging you. Finding out Booth was comming back with a gf upset me too because the last scene of the finale really felt like kind of a promise that they were going to go get themselves straight, and THEN come back and work on being together as a couple. I have accepted that the writers thought it would be an important part of their journey to let Booth try to move on and find love where it was offered. I think something will come between them and make them realize it just is not meant to be. If I had to guess, Hannah will realize that the domestic life is not something she is ready to settle into..shes a self-proclaimed nomad and still has goals to accomplish before settling down. And Booth will come to understand that Bones is really the only one he wants to be with in the 30, 40, 50 yrs way.

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Post by gordongordonfan Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:40 am

To explain my take on things- I'm not saying that 'sex with the one you love has to be tender and passive' etc. I'm saying that that the show has NOT been showing us tender moments b/n Hannah and Booth as of yet. (meaning at any time, not just during sex.) And the fact that the sex they are putting on film for us is the more... ahh... "energetic" kind ( Embarassed ) just helps reinforce the idea (for me) that Booth's relationship with Hannah is fueled by adrenaline right now! (Sex, fun, laughs, intensity... in short = rebound). That's why I'm not bothered by the sex scenes. (Not saying I like watching them), but they show Hannah and Booth in a "honeymoon" stage right now. And I think that is exactly how the writers are intending it to be. Sweets speech about how Hannah and Booth's relationship was forged in a war zone just goes right along with it.

And even though DB says in his interviews that they basically "ARE together"... that's because WE as the audience know it. THEY don't know it. (Major denial Very Happy ) So Booth would see himself as completely free to do anything he wanted (and maybe even pursue that zealously after what happened end of last season???) Brennan could as well but she's not the one reacting to the perceived rejection in this particular case. And I really don't think Booth or Brennan either one are written as characters that would recall and perseverate over each others' past lovers. They are written as pretty mature and intelligent, and they would be cognizant of what it took for both of them to finally get where they needed to be to be together. If either would do that at all it would probably be Booth, and only if one of her ex's appeared or she talked about him excessively, etc.

But all this is just how I am taking it all in this season, and I know it's different for everyone. I'm just really pleased that this season is shaping up well and I think B&B are already showing more connection again than they had in the 4 or 5 episodes after the 100th. I think that's gonna keep getting stronger. And by the way, when the day comes that B&B get together "for real", I think we'll get the tender and the intense sex! LOL Wink
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