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Post by gordongordonfan Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:37 pm

Yes, she is amazing. She can convey so much with just a look. Well goodnight all! Gotta work tomorrow so I should turn in. My 'BONES' addiction is interfering with my sleep, as usual! LOL
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Post by treble21 Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:38 pm

and onto my nitpicky moments

- The Mac and cheese comment, was anger inducing for me, I think I need to look up the writer and ask them WTF that was about ( strange how the little things irritate me but I can overlook huge plot holes with no issues...)

- Hannah knew about Ang's pregnancy before Booth.... really? ..... really? yeah I'm not cool with that.


Overall the episode was more watchable than I thought it would be, due to my neverending hatred for Jersey Shore. But still the weakest of the three I think.
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Post by gordongordonfan Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:41 pm

See I really liked this one. (Maybe just was craving the 'frivolity' for a change?)

I didn't get the Hannah knowing about the pregnancy "look" either. I'm assuming she "guessed" it but I think that was way overdone. Unless we're supposed to assume the 4 "girls" were discussing it, and if that's what they were trying to do, that's just ridiculous. It would be like the writers trying to force Hannah into the inner circle of this group of long standing friends in 2 episodes.

Now I really better go to bed and quit talking LOL
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Post by jro54 Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:43 pm

@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
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Post by bones fan 99 Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:45 pm

anthropologystudent wrote:
treble21 wrote:seriously I'm not even sure I can rewatch the scene where both Brennan and Hannah say "your welcome" something about that moment made my heart break for Brennan all the more.


I agree with you I am not sure I could see that again...It was so sad and it was like in that moment she decided she needed to leave to me it almost seemed that she was going to cry. As she was walking to the door you could almost see it in her eyes that and in her face that she was sad. But I loved the ending it was very telling and that look they shared really just sparked with emotions for me.

I'd call that scene "hope" they still have all they had before but realise it a bit more each episode since Hannahs arrival, well brennan at least!

And sweets' "oh boy" my most favorite line in the episode I was like yesssssss finally we're goin gto get a voice of reason
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Post by treble21 Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:46 pm

jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.

if you watch the episode he doesn't seem as distant this week, but yeah there's an uncomfortable moment at the end.
I didn't think you were trying to start anything, I just wanted to address the question and I couldn't right away because I hadn't seen the episode yet. So no worries, I haven't read all the comments, but honestly Booth didn't do anything bad at all. he actually protected Brennan at one point.
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Post by THX1138 Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:49 pm

jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.


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Post by gordongordonfan Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:51 pm

jro54- I don't think anyone would take anything you said that way??? I thought you were just asking earlier cause some posters may have said things about Booth's actions and since you hadn't seen it you were wondering, or something? (I haven't read every page so figured I missed something) I didn't take it any bad way. In this episode Booth has thawed quite a bit towards Brennan in my opinion. (I didn't think he was ever 'mean' either, just very cautious and reserved early on- [and why wouldn't he be?? ] and it seems to be thawing, [Only admins are allowed to see this image] at least to me.) Here's to the path of Brennan and Booth getting on the same page at the same time! LOL
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Post by treble21 Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:04 pm

THX1138 wrote:
jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.


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Post by GryphonTatoo Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:09 pm

gordongordonfan wrote:OK- just finished watching (it's been a crazy night)... and first impressions.... LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this episode! So fun, lots of laughs, lots of intense moments, awesome! Brennan and Hannah's conversation at the lab- very telling. Sweets- I LOVE HIM! He is so on to Booth and it seems the writers are back to using him a little in his original capacity as the B&B 'feelings meter' /safe reveal guy for the audience. That ending- perfect perfect perfect.

You know what's funny about the sex scene for me this time around? I'm actually GLAD they put it in. Am I crazy? Have I lost it? Nope! Does it seem like they are shoving the Booth and Hannah sex in the audience's face? Well, by all means I think they are, and I think it's great. The first thought it leaves me with is that it is just confirming for the audience that Booth and Hannah are all about THE MOMENT, sex, fun, etc. Their relationship is "Booth lite". No question. Yes it sucks to 'watch' the Booth character with a SO. But lets face it, we all "know" he and Hannah have sex (it'd be a little strange if they didn't). So I think all the overkill with the sex is pretty obviously showing "where Booth is at" right now. The total awkward 'moment' at the end when he looks at Brennan (for quite a long moment) says it all to me. Yay to this episode.

I also LOVED this episode! I agree with most everything you said...right on! I was expecting this ep to be sillier than it was...and thankfully, it wasn't as bad as I'd pictured it.

Poor Sweets is really trying to get Booth to listen, but Booth is in that NEW relationship zone where it's all fun and sex. From the moment Sweets says "Oh, boy" we know that HE knows this can't end well. But...I also liked that B&B were more comfortable with each other than in ep2. We're making a little progress...especially after THAT scene at the end when they look at each other. My little shipper heart just melted. I love you We do have HOPE, people!!

That being said...there are references in these first 3 eps about addictions of all kinds...alcohol, drugs, gambling - and recovery and depression. Hmm...I'm thinking there's more to this that will show up in future eps. Just a thought. I have no idea what the writers have in mind, but I do believe it's all there for a reason. Especially since I'm getting a vibe that something is "off" with Booth. And not just acting out-of-character. He's been playing with his poker chip - a lot.

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Post by joybrennan Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:11 pm

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jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.

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He JUST figured his feelings out his feelings for Brennan at the top of season five - after getting a brain tumor pulled out of his head. What three years of "waiting for Brennan" are you talking about? confused confused confused
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Post by treble21 Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:21 pm

This could be debated but I don't think Booth just figured out his feelings at the beginning of Season 5, I think he knew for a long time before that, and he actually says in the 100th that he knew from the beginning.
Exact quote from the show:

Well, then let's go for a different outcome here, alright? Let's just - hear me out, alright? You know when you talk to older couples who, you know, have been in love for 30 or 40 or 50 years, alright, it's always the guy who says "I knew." I knew. Right from the beginning.
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Post by Zygomatic Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:25 pm

Kind of off topic, but I was wondering if anyone else caught this (IMO) very telling quote,

after they 'help' Hannah move in, and they are commenting on her lack of luggage, stuff, etc., Bones says "Booth won't even have to make room for you" or something along those lines.

This reminds me a lot of last weeks, "while you are here" comment. Booth doesn't have to make room for her litterally and metaphorically, because she won't be here for long. I felt that this was pretty significant, cause they dwelled on it for what felt like a while... Just my thought Smile
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Post by bones fan 99 Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:29 pm

zygomatic love your sig!!
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Post by Zygomatic Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:41 pm

thankss Wink its pretty much how i feel after every heart-wrenching scene like tonight's hallway scene... Although to be fair I was laughing just as hard as I was crying tonight Very Happy
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Post by THX1138 Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:52 pm

joybrennan wrote:
THX1138 wrote:
jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.

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He JUST figured his feelings out his feelings for Brennan at the top of season five - after getting a brain tumor pulled out of his head. What three years of "waiting for Brennan" are you talking about? confused confused confused
Oh please, he stopped dating after Cam and every man Brennan went out with he made a point to interrupt the dates or actively discourage her from dating. The man did everything but pee on her leg to mark her as his territory AND while he was fending off potential suitors he was going out of his way to push her to accept that love was more than endorphins and dopamine, and losing yourself in someone was something wonderful. The fiction that it wasn't until his brain tumor that he was in love with her is just that. He's been in love with her for years, or can you think of another reason a man like Booth went without a girlfriend or serious sex partner for 36 months?


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Post by bones fan 99 Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:52 pm

I really like it too, i've liked all this season much to my surprize I was expecting to hate it........
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Post by joybrennan Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:57 pm

treble21 wrote:This could be debated but I don't think Booth just figured out his feelings at the beginning of Season 5, I think he knew for a long time before that, and he actually says in the 100th that he knew from the beginning.
Exact quote from the show:

Well, then let's go for a different outcome here, alright? Let's just - hear me out, alright? You know when you talk to older couples who, you know, have been in love for 30 or 40 or 50 years, alright, it's always the guy who says "I knew." I knew. Right from the beginning.
Yeah, that's what he SAYS but he sure kept it to himself for a long time if that's the case. And if you tell your best pal/exgirlfriend that you're in love with someone and she says, "That's great, BUT, make SURE you're sure because if you change your mind..." Gotta wonder what she knew about Booth - like maybe he he's in love with love? Heck, he wanted to marry Rebecca, take that next step with Tessa, apparently had some thoughts about marrying Cam. He's moved
On from "the one" whenever it's not smooth sailing so often which ONE did he know from the beginning. Or maybe it's whatever "one" drops into his lap and stays. You know like a bottle in a ring toss game. Rolling Eyes
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Post by jro54 Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:05 pm

^Yeah, I agree with the king and Treble. I totally think he was aware of his feelings way before the beginning of season 5...but I have also some really good posts on here about how Booth wasn't really sure if he knew Brennan was the one (...but there is a difference between having feelings and being "in love" with someone) IMO I think they have both been aware of their feelings for each other all long, considering Brennan's comment about how she felt love before (...and she was oblviously talking about Booth...because she looked away when she said it) she's has been aware of her feelings for Booth for a while.
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Post by recoveringbonesaddict Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:13 pm

THX1138 wrote:
jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.


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Booth is not some fairy tale prince charming (or the perfect dream guy)as portrayed in most Fanfics and by the some members of this forum. He is, DB and HH have said it, a normal blue collar type a guy who wants to be happy. He is flawed, he is insecure, he is loving, and he wants to please. The person he though could make him happy said "NO", so he decided to move on like any normal guy. It is that simple.




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Post by joybrennan Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:14 pm

THX1138 wrote:
joybrennan wrote:
THX1138 wrote:
jro54 wrote:@Treble and gordongordon My earlier post wasn't directed to anyone. I tried to go back an delete it...because I thought it would cause another "Booth vs Brennan" debate. I just read a lot of "Booth hate" comments earlier and I wonder what did Booth do to Brennan. I haven't seen this episode yet...but from last week's episode and the premiere, I think Booth is being a little cold and distant to Brennan, he's really trying convince himself that he's moved on...and he's being a little more open with his sex life...but I don't think he's being mean to her.
From what I can tell it's basically all Booth's fault that after three years of waiting for Brennan to get a grip on her feelings only to get shot down after asking her out, then having her announce she has to leave after begging him to remain her partner, that Booth had the audacity to find a girlfriend who actually acts like she gives a shit about him instead of running from him like he's got the plague and not calling him for seven months. I mean, really, why he didn't want to play the part of love sick eunuch for another full year (after already having done so for three) is beyond me.

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He JUST figured his feelings out his feelings for Brennan at the top of season five - after getting a brain tumor pulled out of his head. What three years of "waiting for Brennan" are you talking about? confused confused confused
Oh please, he stopped dating after Cam and every man Brennan went out with he made a point to interrupt the dates or actively discourage her from dating. The man did everything but pee on her leg to mark her as his territory AND while he was fending off potential suitors he was going out of his way to push her to accept that love was more than endorphins and dopamine, and losing yourself in someone was something wonderful. The fiction that it wasn't until his brain tumor that he was in love with her is just that. He's been in love with her for years, or can you think of another reason a man like Booth went without a girlfriend or serious sex partner for 36 months?


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How about his inability to ASK A WOMAN ON A DATE. Even the damn girlfriend journalist who's been town like, a month, gets the Brennan is a literalist. Sending frigging smoke signals or doing pantomime is not the way you tell a literalist ANYTHING. Assuming he was concious of his feelings - which I doubt - his approach to telling Brennan would have to make me seriously question his intelligence. Since I DON'T think Booth is supposed to be stupid, I'm going with he didn't fully know his feelings until the end of 4.
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Post by bones fan 99 Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:30 pm

Ok just watched it a second time and now I thinkI'm going to need a wine before bed..... it may be my rose coloured glasses but I think booth just saw brennans saddness and heartache ..... it has me hopeful but sad all at the same time I hope next weeks science dude will leave me with a smile instead of a tear especially if I'm going to have to wait a few weeks for the next installment!
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Post by recoveringbonesaddict Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:12 pm

"Worst Episode Ever. Worst writing, worst acting, worst plot. Dreadful. Just to add insult to... well, insult... they made Bones literally stupid, and Hannah literally temporary."

Someone posted the above on another Blog, and this person expresses my sentiments especially with the scenes at the shore. Double Death was Emmy worthy compare to this. I felt embarrass for the actors and mad at the writers. I know this episode was a parody of the Jersey Shore, but I failed to laugh.


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Post by recoveringbonesaddict Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:15 pm

As each Bones episodes airs, I find myself comparing it to Castle. Castle is slowly becoming my new passion, my new mistress, and I'm finding that I'm loving my new mistress more than my old one. Castle's premier episode and the episodes that follow have in every way exceeded what Bones has aired.

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Post by bones fan 99 Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:31 pm

So funny how we all watch the same thing and have such polar opposite views on it!! I really enjoy castle too I really think they'll be together before bones and booth mind you they don't seem to have the same quantity of 'issues'
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