Angela / Hodgins

HeyLJ wrote:How receptive are you / would you be to them becoming a couple again?

I don't like the idea, to be honest. I don't 'feel' it between them anymore, aside for my dislike for Angela's behaviour at times over S4/5. I had such acute second-hand embarrassment watching The X in the File that I couldn't watch the A/W/H scenes. Poor Hodgins.

(I also worked out why I find Angela/Wendell so squicky after re-watching The Perfect Pieces in the Purple Pond - such a big sister/little bro vibe going on for most of that).

I was just curious to see what people thought as I know there are die-hard H/A shippers out there and I was wondering if your love for them as a couple had dimnished or still burns strong? And also, if you were always a bit take-it-or-leave-it about them, how you feel now?

dawnsfire wrote:I would have no problems with Hodgela if it was handled right, which I have doubts about, esp after last week. Yeah, that was sweet of him to offer to step up, but... They were good as an engaged couple, though.

I've said from their breakup just about that if they get back together, it has to be Angela doing the pursuing, with Hodgins having the upper hand. Her little ways put him through a lot of misery during the courting stage, not to mention after the breakup (Though it was good of her to tell her father that was as much her fault as Hodgins', even if the man wasn't inclined to accept that).
But what has seemed unfair to me over the course of this season and part of the last is that every time Hodgins seems to have a measure of peace, she throws him a curveball! He was fine (think of the bit with the tattoo) until he found out about Wendell. Not that Angela's completely over them, either...

and what happened to that earring?

Now as for A&W, I don't pick up that "hot for teach" vibe, really, even considering Purple Pieces. And they make a better couple than Sweets and Daisy, somehow. I didn't get all squicked out when they were in the hotel bed together the way I did when Daisy ripped Sweets' shirt off him. However, I don't see this lasting as long as Hodgela did, and since I'm sweeter on Wendell than Ange right now, I hope it's not too hard on him (or he initiates. )

As for Angela, I can't see her with anyone else on the show. Not Sweets, none of the other interns. In terms of her character, Booth is probably the only one who could really control her (and I mean that in the nicest of ways), and since he has his hands full with a certain forensic anthropologist, that ain't happening!

I'd like to see how they would handle Cadgins on the show, though. Once past everyone's initial resentment of Cam coming in and being put over their heads, Jack & Cam have consistently had pretty good interactions. If they're looking at fanfic, they may have noticed the little upswing in those stories.

THX1138 wrote:As for Wendell and Angie breaking up? I think it'll be Wendell who breaks her heart. Not that he's not 100% in, he is, but I think he's not sure about her, and the comment that "it's the wrong guy" tells me he's right. He's gonna find out about her pregnancy scare, and when he does I think it's going to push him in the direction of protecting his heart, and when he does it'll set them up for the end of their relationships. When they break-up I think it'll send her bouncing back to Hodgins who, hopefully, will have the guts to say "No" for once, and refuse to be her rebound man. He deserves better than that.

dawnsfire wrote:As for Angela, I can't see her with anyone else on the show. Not Sweets, none of the other interns. In terms of her character, Booth is probably the only one who could really control her (and I mean that in the nicest of ways), and since he has his hands full with a certain forensic anthropologist, that ain't happening!

Sweets and Angela is the only other 'workable' solution IMO, and even then their moment has passed - if they were gonna happen, then she should have broken her fast with him, Now Booth and Angela? Yeah, I've had my Bangela moments...not gonna lie, if Booth wasn't with Brennan she'd be the natural fit for him and you're right, as always, my Queen. If any man can 'handle' Angela, it's Booth. Now is it wrong when you said it, I immediately went to him spanking her? There's an M-rated fic right there...

Never saw Sweets and Angela as an actual couple. I could see him having a crush, but like they told VNM, she's too much car for him.

And I don't know if the spanking scenario is wrong, per se, O King, and there's control and then there's control, so whatever makes you happy, I guess. It's probably as wrong as the fact that this discussion reminds me of a fic where Brennan was playing the obedient sub to Booth's dom.

I think Cadgins (or Jam) would go over naturally. They've got a great rapport, he thinks she's hot, we've seen her give him the look once or twice, ha totally gets her family situation and seems comfortable with Michelle - I'd love for him to 'get over' Angela and find himself in a real relationship with Cam, able to tell Angela he still loves her, will always love her, but he's no longer "in love" with her, he's with Cam, where he wants to be. It's Cam that I think will be the skittish one here, she's not going to want to hurt their working relationship or get hurt herself, and she's not going to be convinced easily that Jack is over Angela even if he says he is. Gotta love the drama.

Yeah. Especially since she has another set of responsibilities and is obviously uncertain of how to juggle them with work already. And she sees almost everything in that lab, so she probably has a pretty good idea of where their heads are.

Meegs82 wrote:Swangela? Really? I cannot see that AT ALL. In any way, shape, or form. Yes, he had a crush on her, but she could crush him into a tiny ball with the heel of her boot. In fact, didn't she actually SAY something like that TO him?

Jam/Cadgins is a cute idea, but I really don't see how it would work on screen. I think their moments and flirtations work, but I really cannot see a full-fledged relationship blossoming between the two. But, the writers could make it work with some effort...something they don't seem to do very consistently.

I don't really like A&W. Totally with you all on the big sis/little bro vibe from PPitPP. Yes, watching them together is better than watching the cringe-inducing Swaisy, yet the whole POINT of Swaisy is to be cringe-inducing, IMO. They're the "kids" in the Jeffersonian family and it's supposed to be weird to see them groping on Cleo's bed. That's the tone of their relationship and it works REALLY well. A&W are different and I just do not see them ending up staying together...especially after the "not the the right guy" comment.

I do have a glimmer of hope for Angela getting a hold of herself after last week's episode and I'll tell you why: at the very end when she tells Hodgins she's not pregnant, Hodgins says "forget it" and what does Angela say? She says "I'll never forget it." I think that right there in that moment, she realized what he would do for her and just how much he loves her. And I am HOPING and PRAYING that that realization is going to be a jumping off point for her to change her ways. She now knows how far he is willing to go for her and I think she just might take a look at her behavior...yes, I'm being optimistic.

What on earth are you talking about with an earring? I'm lost.

dawnsfire wrote:The earring--when Angela & Roxie broke up, Angela salved her wounds by having a little "afternoon delight" with Hodgins in the Egyptian room. When they were done, she got dressed and left, but he found one of her earrings in the bed. Near the end of the epi, we see he's had it in his pocket and is apparently keeping it. Salt in the Wounds?

I would love to see Angela change her ways. I know what Rob's said about her daddy issues (I don't know psych, so I'll bow out of that one), but her other main issue is that whole live in the moment thing. She's a creature of impulse, instant gratification, mostly in the physical world (and I don't just mean sex). The thing is, we've seen her in 5 relationships, plus a couple dates, and 4 of those 5 have wanted more and she's dodged them. Kirk only got 3 weeks a year. Grayson she "forgot" about (even though it was brought up S1). We saw what happened with Hodgins and Roxie was upfront that she wanted more/a future and knew she would never get it. Don't know yet how things'll go with Wendell. How many times is this going to come back and bite her before she realizes that either she has to change her expectations or her ways? Even Brennan isn't this slow! Resists change, maybe, but that doesn't mean she can't see something.

THX1138 wrote:As for Wendell and Angie breaking up? I think it'll be Wendell who breaks her heart. Not that he's not 100% in, he is, but I think he's not sure about her, and the comment that "it's the wrong guy" tells me he's right. He's gonna find out about her pregnancy scare, and when he does I think it's going to push him in the direction of protecting his heart, and when he does it'll set them up for the end of their relationships. When they break-up I think it'll send her bouncing back to Hodgins who, hopefully, will have the guts to say "No" for once, and refuse to be her rebound man. He deserves better than that.

Well, he did manage to refuse to be the one who broke her fast, so hopefully he'll stay the course. Because he does deserve a heck of a lot more than that.

But they are setting up for it--think about the last few eps. "There's more than one kind of family" at Christmas, and that look they exchanged. Their mutual discomfort when he finds out about Wendell, him stepping up with that offer when she thought she was pregnant. Just a few words for HH et al--don't screw it up!

And I don't know if the spanking scenario is wrong, per se, O King, and there's control and then there's control, so whatever makes you happy, I guess. It's probably as wrong as the fact that this discussion reminds me of a fic where Brennan was playing the obedient sub to Booth's dom.

I think Cadgins (or Jam) would go over naturally. They've got a great rapport, he thinks she's hot, we've seen her give him the look once or twice, ha totally gets her family situation and seems comfortable with Michelle - I'd love for him to 'get over' Angela and find himself in a real relationship with Cam, able to tell Angela he still loves her, will always love her, but he's no longer "in love" with her, he's with Cam, where he wants to be. It's Cam that I think will be the skittish one here, she's not going to want to hurt their working relationship or get hurt herself, and she's not going to be convinced easily that Jack is over Angela even if he says he is. Gotta love the drama.

Yeah. Especially since she has another set of responsibilities and is obviously uncertain of how to juggle them with work already. And she sees almost everything in that lab, so she probably has a pretty good idea of where their heads are.

THX1138 wrote:I think the next relationship she gets into, she should spend the first month dating the guy/girl and NOT having sex with them. She needs to learn how to love without falling into bed first. Really, until she figures herself out? She needs to stay the hell away from Hodgins.

That's what Sweets should have told her, rather than the 6 mo celibacy thing. I get the impression she didn't even go looking for a date during those months, which sort of defeats the purpose of connecting on a different level. Except for Wendell, who she had gotten to know to some degree without sex.

dawnsfire wrote:

THX1138 wrote:I think the next relationship she gets into, she should spend the first month dating the guy/girl and NOT having sex with them. She needs to learn how to love without falling into bed first. Really, until she figures herself out? She needs to stay the hell away from Hodgins.

That's what Sweets should have told her, rather than the 6 mo celibacy thing. I get the impression she didn't even go looking for a date during those months, which sort of defeats the purpose of connecting on a different level. Except for Wendell, who she had gotten to know to some degree without sex.

jcn747 wrote:Okay here is an idea, would it be possible that maybe angela is afraid to go out with Hodgins, because she doesn't want to hurt him again, or perhaps she doubted that he loved her, after all she had put him through. And another point, what happened with that whole "lets get back together" issue in CitC, i mean they skipped it entirely, so maybe that will be revisited.

But in the end i think they will get together, they do belong together IMO. And HH did say that he though they belonged together too.

I also think there is a black spot with angela and wendel's feelings, the way they got together just lead me to believe they were being spontaneous, and i agree they are awkward together, brother and sister awkward.

jcn747 wrote:Okay here is an idea, would it be possible that maybe angela is afraid to go out with Hodgins, because she doesn't want to hurt him again...

RM wrote:We still haven't seen the fallout from her false positive pregnancy test.

DBCrazy wrote:

jcn747 wrote:Okay here is an idea, would it be possible that maybe angela is afraid to go out with Hodgins, because she doesn't want to hurt him again...

Totally! I don't think she trusts herself anymore. Did you see how she freaked out at the thought of having a kid? It wasn't just the "wrong guy" - it was the connection with another soul that freaked her out.

RM wrote:We still haven't seen the fallout from her false positive pregnancy test.

I think that Hodgins offering to take care of Angie, then the news of it being a false positive, ending with their little talk and walking away arm in arm last week is the beginning of that fallout.

Personally I think the writers have sacrificed Angela. She's that character that ends up doing anything and everything, so what's really to figure out about her - you can't!

dawnsfire wrote:About Angela and kids--I always saw her comment back in Baby about wanting kids as being completely spontaneous, despite a few comments in Proof that try to indicate otherwise. I mean, she's probably thought more about having at least one kid more than Brennan has in the past 15 years, but still, seeing this cute and fairly well-behaved baby, she wanted that experience, too. But here's the thing, as all (good) parents will tell you--babies are the ultimate commitment. Hard to live in the moment for those 18 years for the most part when you bear ultimate responsibilty for this small human's well-being. Maybe somewhere in there, she realized that and that contributed to her anxiety. Or is that looking too far ahead to even realize that?



my, that was catty