OMG! WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE BEFORE!?

FINALE TALK! AND MIND-BLOWINGNESS BEHIND THE CUT!
IT WAS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finale sex scene!

1st shot of the alarm clock: 4:47 STANDARD time.
2nd shot of the alarm clock: 0543 MILITARY time!

WHICH SUPPORTS THE THEORY that this is the REAL Booth & Brennan having sex in the future some time. It supports everything that HH has said. It supports everything and it wasn't just HH being crafty with his answers and the interviewers having only asked the wrong questions. IT'S REAL BOOTH/BRENNAN SEX OMG! OMG! OMG!

It also explains the title: The END in the BEGINNING. As in the very last scene of their relationship--together, her wearing a ring, him telling her he loves her, her asking if she loves him, etc--In other words, it was the LAST scene of their relationship to air on this show (set in the future of course) being aired in the episode that Booth and Brennan first began to recognize their feelings for one another--where Brennan decided she was in love with him. OH MY GOD. O.O

we've been discussing this on the Book vs Dream thread, from the 2nd page on, Mama!

What?!?! Why am I so behind!!!!???? Where's that darn thread!? Why is my brain so far behind!? Gah! *headdesk*

Mama... *pats head* it's ok. Don't stress yourself out.

*hug*

I'm still hoping for someone to give me all of the details of the clock theory, cause really, I just can't see it

but as we said in the other thread, the solution we've come up with makes sense, to me, haha.... so I'd really like to read your take on things

Haha. Thanks! That's all my take on things. It makes sense up here. *tapes forehead*

I have a headache right now, but it does make sense and it would be wonderful if you were right, really. I'm not sure HH is that bright however lol.

OMG!!!!!!!!! I totally get this episode now. i have to watch for the 3rd time

k_alexandra wrote:I have a headache right now, but it does make sense and it would be wonderful if you were right, really. I'm not sure HH is that bright however lol.

I have to disagree.

Here are a few quotes from Hart Hanson's Twitter:

On noticing the two different clocks (one being military time, the other being standard):
I always said that the season finale was made specifically for our long time audience, the loyal fans who've kept us alive.

Everything was done on purpose ... everything was done for a reason ... everything means something ...

I have some difficulties to understand the thing with the clock, i know that i'm french so that made the thing a little bit more hard to understand but even if i saw the ep at least 5 times! I don't undersand the theory, Am I blind??
Please!!!explain to me!

frenchdoty wrote:I have some difficulties to understand the thing with the clock, i know that i'm french so that made the thing a little bit more hard to understand but even if i saw the ep at least 5 times! I don't undersand the theory, Am I blind??
Please!!!explain to me!

Welcome to the ABY!
I think I've explained how it makes sense to me in this thread, but there's a whole 'NOTHER thread right here: [Only admins are allowed to see this link]

Lots of theories and explanations!!!

Hey everyone! I'm new here and just wanted to say hello!

I also just want to say how in love I am with the 2clocks theory. I think it explains so much with what was said about THE scene. I just think it is soo clever and really was a "love letter" to long time fans, showing that yes, eventually b&b are going to get together and everything is going to turn out how it should.

Hannah

frenchdoty wrote:I have some difficulties to understand the thing with the clock, i know that i'm french so that made the thing a little bit more hard to understand but even if i saw the ep at least 5 times! I don't undersand the theory, Am I blind??
Please!!!explain to me!

To clarify what I was saying, it would have to take TWO different alarm clocks to show two different time formats. That, combined with the title: The END in the BEGINNING, along with a ton of other theories found in this thread: [Only admins are allowed to see this link] lead me to believe that there is a time jump.

1. First scene where B&B make love is a future and REAL scene. Standard alarm clock time: 4:47. (This represents the END... the last B/B scene to ever air. A real representation of the B/B future.)
2. Second scene where the alarm clock is Military Time: 0543 is where the "story/dream" begin.
3. Last scene where Brennan is typing and Booth wakes up: Current B/B time. (This represents the BEGINNING of the Booth/Brennan romance.)

(These are my theories, at least.)

angstjunkie wrote:Hey everyone! I'm new here and just wanted to say hello!

I also just want to say how in love I am with the 2clocks theory. I think it explains so much with what was said about THE scene. I just think it is soo clever and really was a "love letter" to long time fans, showing that yes, eventually b&b are going to get together and everything is going to turn out how it should.

Hannah

Welcome to the ABY!
That's exactly right. It's meant to be a love letter and to show us that, as Hart Hanson said in an interview, "Eventually everyone who's supposed to be together will be together and everyone who's not supposed to be together won't be together." It's an assurance that things will work out as they're supposed to. I like the way you wrote that. It is indeed clever!

ForensicMama wrote:

Welcome to the ABY!
That's exactly right. It's meant to be a love letter and to show us that, as Hart Hanson said in an interview, "Eventually everyone who's supposed to be together will be together and everyone who's not supposed to be together won't be together." It's an assurance that things will work out as they're supposed to. I like the way you wrote that. It is indeed clever!

Thanks! Not that I think we were ever in danger of not having b&b end up together, but it was nice just to get that assurance. I really think that if they're able to end the series with enough warning, the last scene will be much like the beginning scene of EitB, to show the connection.

Btw Mama, I'm Hannah over at Chatzy.

ForensicMama wrote:

frenchdoty wrote:I have some difficulties to understand the thing with the clock, i know that i'm french so that made the thing a little bit more hard to understand but even if i saw the ep at least 5 times! I don't undersand the theory, Am I blind??
Please!!!explain to me!

To clarify what I was saying, it would have to take TWO different alarm clocks to show two different time formats. That, combined with the title: The END in the BEGINNING, along with a ton of other theories found in this thread: [Only admins are allowed to see this link] lead me to believe that there is a time jump.

1. First scene where B&B make love is a future and REAL scene. Standard alarm clock time: 4:47. (This represents the END... the last B/B scene to ever air. A real representation of the B/B future.)
2. Second scene where the alarm clock is Military Time: 0543 is where the "story/dream" begin.
3. Last scene where Brennan is typing and Booth wakes up: Current B/B time. (This represents the BEGINNING of the Booth/Brennan romance.)

(These are my theories, at least.)

that made a lot of sense! i'm impressed!

hart also said something else to support your theory further. And that was: one of his twitter posts about knowing exactly how the show will end.

With 2 more guaranteed seasons, this could definitely be true.

good thinking.

I totally agree with Mama's theory.

Another part of the episode that supports that the sex is real is that near the end of the episode after the AU Brennan tells Booth is she pregnant, the scene fades to white and transitions back to the real world from the AU. The only other time this transition happens is after the sex it fades to white, which to me means they are transitioning from the real world (albeit the future real world) to AU. This is the moment where the clocks change. This would also support everything HH said about the sex being real.

Just think...we have all summer to refine our theories!

anteater wrote:I totally agree with Mama's theory.

Another part of the episode that supports that the sex is real is that near the end of the episode after the AU Brennan tells Booth is she pregnant, the scene fades to white and transitions back to the real world from the AU. The only other time this transition happens is after the sex it fades to white, which to me means they are transitioning from the real world (albeit the future real world) to AU. This is the moment where the clocks change. This would also support everything HH said about the sex being real.

Just think...we have all summer to refine our theories!

The fading-to-white was another thing that had me thinking that the sex scene was different from the rest of the AU. As you said, it again does this when it changes from the end of the AU to the hospital. I think that was deliberate.

I just love this theory so much. I think it explains EVERYTHING!

All summer.... I don't know if I can wait that long! When do sides come out again? hehe.

I just wanted to thank you, I finally understood the history of clock and that's appear clearer now to my eyes!
This is an excellent theory and glue entirely with what was saying hart hanson!
Again thank you for informing me!

There's just one last thing that I wonder.
In your theory, the first scene would be real and it happen in the future, i understand that but have you noticed that in this same scene (before the white screen) bones bear an engagement ring ... it would also tell that in a future "close" they will get married??
Is it the right thing to deduct?

frenchdoty wrote:There's just one last thing that I wonder.
In your theory, the first scene would be real and it happen in the future, i understand that but have you noticed that in this same scene (before the white screen) bones bear an engagement ring ... it would also tell that in a future "close" they will get married??
Is it the right thing to deduct?

That's what I got from it.

squee @marriedb&b

I just hope this doesn't mean we won't get another sex scene until the end of the show. D: I'd die, ROFL.

WANTZ B&B SEXIN'.

christinaof94 wrote:I just hope this doesn't mean we won't get another sex scene until the end of the show. D: I'd die, ROFL.

WANTZ B&B SEXIN'.

Me too! I don't think we can go from getting a sex scene in season 4, to NOTHING in season 5. We should get something!!

ForensicMama wrote:
To clarify what I was saying, it would have to take TWO different alarm clocks to show two different time formats. That, combined with the title: The END in the BEGINNING, along with a ton of other theories found in this thread: [Only admins are allowed to see this link] lead me to believe that there is a time jump.

1. First scene where B&B make love is a future and REAL scene. Standard alarm clock time: 4:47. (This represents the END... the last B/B scene to ever air. A real representation of the B/B future.)
2. Second scene where the alarm clock is Military Time: 0543 is where the "story/dream" begin.
3. Last scene where Brennan is typing and Booth wakes up: Current B/B time. (This represents the BEGINNING of the Booth/Brennan romance.)

(These are my theories, at least.)

w00t!! I hope you're right Mama, and you know how hard I've been on HH and the finale, it's not among my favorite things, but what you're saying does seem to jibe with HH's tweets on "the scene". I'm not quite ready to do the 'mea culpa' samba yet, but it is looking like a masterful head fake by HH. Maybe a little too masterful if it had so many longtime fans (like myself) screaming for his head on a plate for the last five days.

From your lips to God's ears, Mama.

Robert Modean

christinaof94 wrote:I just hope this doesn't mean we won't get another sex scene until the end of the show. D: I'd die, ROFL.

WANTZ B&B SEXIN'.

Think about this: if they are engaged in the future sex scene, then we have to assume that they have already been together and therefore, we should have more love scenes leading up to the engagement.

angstjunkie wrote:

anteater wrote:I totally agree with Mama's theory.

Another part of the episode that supports that the sex is real is that near the end of the episode after the AU Brennan tells Booth is she pregnant, the scene fades to white and transitions back to the real world from the AU. The only other time this transition happens is after the sex it fades to white, which to me means they are transitioning from the real world (albeit the future real world) to AU. This is the moment where the clocks change. This would also support everything HH said about the sex being real.

Just think...we have all summer to refine our theories!

The fading-to-white was another thing that had me thinking that the sex scene was different from the rest of the AU. As you said, it again does this when it changes from the end of the AU to the hospital. I think that was deliberate.

I just love this theory so much. I think it explains EVERYTHING!

All summer.... I don't know if I can wait that long! When do sides come out again? hehe.

I think the fade to white was very important. Not only was it unique, but fades-to-whites are used sparingly in scripts and are meant to indicate a passage in time (backwards or forwards, it does not matter which direction).