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Fringe, anyone?
Someone said we should have a Fringe thread, so I decided to start one.
I said before that I just got a chance to see the season finale last week, though I missed about half of the entire season. (Maybe I'll get the DVDs--haven't decided yet) Now that it's paired up with Bones, I should have an easier time!
I also noted that I was more shocked about the gravestone than the city skyline, and I think I realized why. First, I didn't see the original airing and therefore heard a few things here and there, plus saw at least 1 promo before this past Thurs. Second, I've never been all that familiar with the NYC skyline, so it wasn't this drastic, OMG moment, sorry to say (make it Chicago and we'll talk).
The whole trying to explain alternate universes or realities to Charlie, though--obviously the guy never read a comic or sci-fi in his life. Standard stuff, really. I've always enjoyed alternate histories, which is really the same thing, just not so--hard-edged, I guess you could say. One little change and a new world is split off, and the further back the split happens, the more radically different that world is from the one we call home.
I said before that I just got a chance to see the season finale last week, though I missed about half of the entire season. (Maybe I'll get the DVDs--haven't decided yet) Now that it's paired up with Bones, I should have an easier time!
I also noted that I was more shocked about the gravestone than the city skyline, and I think I realized why. First, I didn't see the original airing and therefore heard a few things here and there, plus saw at least 1 promo before this past Thurs. Second, I've never been all that familiar with the NYC skyline, so it wasn't this drastic, OMG moment, sorry to say (make it Chicago and we'll talk).
The whole trying to explain alternate universes or realities to Charlie, though--obviously the guy never read a comic or sci-fi in his life. Standard stuff, really. I've always enjoyed alternate histories, which is really the same thing, just not so--hard-edged, I guess you could say. One little change and a new world is split off, and the further back the split happens, the more radically different that world is from the one we call home.
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I love Fringe!
I wasn't shocked at all when I saw the gravestone although I hadn't seen any spoilers before I watched it.
But I think there were enough hints and stuff like the coin that it was already more or less clear, that Peter wasn't the this-world-Peter.....
I can't wait for the new season to start.
I wasn't shocked at all when I saw the gravestone although I hadn't seen any spoilers before I watched it.
But I think there were enough hints and stuff like the coin that it was already more or less clear, that Peter wasn't the this-world-Peter.....
I can't wait for the new season to start.
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As you can see, by my signature, I love Fringe! I was not all that surprised by the gravestone, I was a little surprised, but more like, O.K., so Peter is the other world Peter... what now???
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Poor Charlie!
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dawnsfire wrote:Poor Charlie!
UGH TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not so sure I like that though; I guess I will be OK with it if it's not one of those long arcs; if it goes away in 2 or 3 episodes I won't mind it as much.
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Noooo, Charlie! *cries*
I'd been waiting for Charlie to turn evil since the first episode I watched (thank you JJ for scaring me for life with Alias) so I wasn't surprised, but man, what a bummer.
[On the other hand, how happy am I that Kirk Acevedo is staying 'round? So, so happy]
I have to say, I really, really loved this premiere. I didn't even mind Exposition!Peter when he was introducing...the show to the new Charlie (does she have a name?). Also didn't mind the directing. Guess Akiva Goldsman is not horrible all the time, after all.most of the time though..
Oh, and moment of the episode: forget about Charlie, or Liv quoting his mother to Peter...Nina and Broyles, y'all!!! What an excellent moment. Even my brother (who watched with moi on the phone) was like, 'whoa, JJ!'
I'd been waiting for Charlie to turn evil since the first episode I watched (thank you JJ for scaring me for life with Alias) so I wasn't surprised, but man, what a bummer.
[On the other hand, how happy am I that Kirk Acevedo is staying 'round? So, so happy]
I have to say, I really, really loved this premiere. I didn't even mind Exposition!Peter when he was introducing...the show to the new Charlie (does she have a name?). Also didn't mind the directing. Guess Akiva Goldsman is not horrible all the time, after all.
Oh, and moment of the episode: forget about Charlie, or Liv quoting his mother to Peter...Nina and Broyles, y'all!!! What an excellent moment. Even my brother (who watched with moi on the phone) was like, 'whoa, JJ!'
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O. My. God
WTF?!BBQ!
Half-way through and I'm already in love. Gosh, this might in fact be the new X-files.
WTF?!BBQ!
Half-way through and I'm already in love. Gosh, this might in fact be the new X-files.
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omg, I know! I was sooo upset last week! I loved Charlie!!!dawnsfire wrote:Poor Charlie!
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Yeah, it's official. JJ Abs' purchase on my soul is large and permanent. *sigh* I love this show.
But you know, I'm kinda digging evil Charlie. Might just be my love for Kirk Acevedo shinning through but I'm all for it.
omg, I know! I was sooo upset last week! I loved Charlie!!!
But you know, I'm kinda digging evil Charlie. Might just be my love for Kirk Acevedo shinning through but I'm all for it.
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Who the heck played Hughes? It drove me insane all episode!
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John Savage. If you watched Dark Angel that would be Lydecker.
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That's it! I knew it wasn't a sympathetic character.
Only watched 1 season of Dark Angel, but that was enough. Hair threw me, I guess. Thanks.
Only watched 1 season of Dark Angel, but that was enough. Hair threw me, I guess. Thanks.
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You know, that's the problem with these types of shows...there's nothing cut and dried, no black hats vs white hats. The good guys have dangerous secrets and the bad guys have good motives.
This Colonel--he only had 4 people that we know of, right? And how many couriers did he think there were? Well, you know what they say about military intelligence sometimes!
The Observer--I'm a little in the dark about him, since like I say, I missed some of S1. He reminds me in a way of the character of the Watcher in Marvel Comics. Not supposed to interfere, only observe--but sometimes breaks the rules and helps (and he's bald, too).
Wheee! And Olivia walked across the room!
This Colonel--he only had 4 people that we know of, right? And how many couriers did he think there were? Well, you know what they say about military intelligence sometimes!
The Observer--I'm a little in the dark about him, since like I say, I missed some of S1. He reminds me in a way of the character of the Watcher in Marvel Comics. Not supposed to interfere, only observe--but sometimes breaks the rules and helps (and he's bald, too).
Wheee! And Olivia walked across the room!
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I think we're all in the dark Dawn, but I gotta say: Evil!Observer? Oh, I like it.
I haven't watched the whole thing yet -the joys of being on the road. There's one thing I have to say though: The music, OMG. Who is the music director for this show? Because between the creepy instrumentals and the radio classics, I'm convinced he/she is a genius.
I haven't watched the whole thing yet -the joys of being on the road. There's one thing I have to say though: The music, OMG. Who is the music director for this show? Because between the creepy instrumentals and the radio classics, I'm convinced he/she is a genius.
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bones206, I just need to tell you that your X-Files signature is absolutely FANTASTIC!!! I just thought I'd share
Oh, and I am a newbie to Fringe and I am really liking it. I need to go buy Season 1 or at least rent it. I love Walter, he's my favorite.
Oh, and I am a newbie to Fringe and I am really liking it. I need to go buy Season 1 or at least rent it. I love Walter, he's my favorite.
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dawnsfire wrote:
Wheee! And Olivia walked across the room!
That part totally got me! First, she was holding the gun and I was like, "what's the big deal?" and hubby said, "her grip is solid as a rock" (as opposed to all the shakiness) and then it cut to the cane and I was like, "holy crap!"
Pretty awesome moment, IMO. What it means, however, I cannot begin to imagine. Damn, that Sam is good!
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yeah, that's what I clicked on 1st--how steady she was--and what a great improvement it was, esp after watching her fumble with that device earlier. And they pulled back--oh yeah!
Question is, how long will that last? Is it only when she gets agitated and has to learn to expand that to when she's calmer?
One of many, many questions (flashbacks, super-hearing, the works)
Question is, how long will that last? Is it only when she gets agitated and has to learn to expand that to when she's calmer?
One of many, many questions (flashbacks, super-hearing, the works)
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Meegs82 wrote:bones206, I just need to tell you that your X-Files signature is absolutely FANTASTIC!!! I just thought I'd share
Oh, and I am a newbie to Fringe and I am really liking it. I need to go buy Season 1 or at least rent it. I love Walter, he's my favorite.
Weee! Welcome meegs!! Awesome to have other JJ/sci-fi vets on-board.
Walter is Love. So is Astrid for that matter (they're like Batman and Robin!) and Broyles (omg, the unholy crush I'm growing on that man!) but I think my faves are Peter/Olivia. As in the two together, not so much as individual but as a team.
Oh, and beware that S1 is a little uneven, but once it hits episodes 12/13 it begins to really gel together.
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Thanks, heiro! For some reason, Astrid kinda sorta bugs me. I don't dislike her, usually she's cool, but I think it's the actual actress. 'Cuz when she delivers some lines, I can't help but think that the actor could have delivered them in a different way and it would be more interesting. But who knows, maybe "they" want her to be that way.
I suppose Walter isn't my favorite, actually, I just find him highly entertaining. I like Olivia and I'm trying to put her and Peter together in my mind, but it's not quite working. Probably 'cuz I'm in love with Mulder and Scully and no FBI-extraterrestial-crime-fighting duo will top them! See how I said "extraterrestial" there? Ya, that's so I can exclude B&B from that statement! LOL
I suppose Walter isn't my favorite, actually, I just find him highly entertaining. I like Olivia and I'm trying to put her and Peter together in my mind, but it's not quite working. Probably 'cuz I'm in love with Mulder and Scully and no FBI-extraterrestial-crime-fighting duo will top them! See how I said "extraterrestial" there? Ya, that's so I can exclude B&B from that statement! LOL
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P.S. Thanks for the tip on S1, heiro!
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Thanks Meegs! I guess I'm not as observant as you guys, because, when I was watching the whole gun/bowling scene, the only thing I was thinking was, "WTF? Why is she gonna shoot him? If she shoots him, she'll go to jail. Has her head injury impaired her thinking??? Oh look, she doesn't have her cane."
I would guess my favorite character is Olivia. I'm not too fond of the Massive Dynamic lady (I can't remember her name). I don't like the Briols/MD Lady relationship. I can see Peter and Olivia getting together sometime in the future. Not right now, they don't have enough chemistry yet, and Olivia's fiance died only about a year ago.
I would guess my favorite character is Olivia. I'm not too fond of the Massive Dynamic lady (I can't remember her name). I don't like the Briols/MD Lady relationship. I can see Peter and Olivia getting together sometime in the future. Not right now, they don't have enough chemistry yet, and Olivia's fiance died only about a year ago.
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I would say Peter is more interested in Olivia than she is in him at the moment. Look at his concern and protectiveness so far. It seems just a little more intense than simply friends (which they are, no question). She's got to figure out what's wrong (with herself as well as the rest) before she's likely to start reciprocating.
But I doubt either of them is thinking that way just yet.
But I doubt either of them is thinking that way just yet.
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dawnsfire wrote: She's got to figure out what's wrong (with herself as well as the rest) before she's likely to start reciprocating.
But I doubt either of them is thinking that way just yet.
Oh, I absolutely agree! I was just as surprised that the thought attacked me 'cause I kinda see them more as bffs than anything else. Now the Broyles/Nina ship: It did not surprise me (and it does freak me out, 'cause omg!wtf!bbq!) but I'm kinda looking forward to finding out what that's all about.
So I finished watching the episode. Comments, random comments...
*Walter is still Love. Same with Astrid. I think she won me over with her ability to feel glee over Walter's insanity (while being stuck on the receiving end of it).
*Broyles kinda laughing at Walter's exuberance in the van was just awesome.
*How awesome was the crystallized body. Seriously.
*Peter and Gene arguing over the hamburger. Wee!
And now questions: are observers evil? Are the col et al. just misinterpreting the observers? And if the observers are evil, and one of them gave Alt!Peter back to Walter and has been watching and helping Walter all this time...does that mean Walter is meant to lead the battle against our reality? Or is that one observer just a renegade, this show's answer to Supernatural's Castiel? Hmmm... (I'd ask if it's Walter's fault that we're going to war, but I think the fact that he and Belly actually ripped the universe open in order to kidnap a child might actually answer that question).
Final Conclusion: I LOVE this show.
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That's true. We just have the Col's word that the observers mean trouble. Granted, those shots of Walter are troublesome.
And you mention kidnapping a child (Peter, got it)--here's a thought: what about alt!Peter's actual parents over there in in World 1.2 or whatever we want to call it? Was he an orphan or is there an alternate Walter and Mom grieving?
(In Marvel comics, the world of the heroes, as we know them, is 616; all of them are assigned numbers. Wonder if anyone here has gotten that far? Can't help bringing in the comics!)
And you mention kidnapping a child (Peter, got it)--here's a thought: what about alt!Peter's actual parents over there in in World 1.2 or whatever we want to call it? Was he an orphan or is there an alternate Walter and Mom grieving?
(In Marvel comics, the world of the heroes, as we know them, is 616; all of them are assigned numbers. Wonder if anyone here has gotten that far? Can't help bringing in the comics!)
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