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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:52 am

I am watching these last episodes of season 3 before watching season 4.....And I was feeling so sad about the end of the season and this happens...
Oh dear!
First, they sent him to Irk, now this....and they introduced this "insider enemy" thing.
I'll watch the last chapter NOW
I hope I like it......
Just had to share!!!
I know you ALL KNOW what happens after.....
Like a Star @ heaven RM

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Post by RGPageantqueen Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:02 am

Season three was such a shocker! Tragic. Very Tragic.
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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:53 am

Oh dear....
Zach!!!!!!???!!!!
wooooooow
How .... painful?

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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:19 am

I'll try to swallow this down and start season 4 in a few days...Oh dear
Well, I hope this show lasts a long time, it is so good!

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Post by dawnsfire Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:37 pm

My sister would appreciate your feelings--she started watching the reruns on cable (because I kept babbling about the show) and hit Wannabe in the Weeds for her 1st real episode (She watched Baby and Woman in Limbo and Aliens with me before). She also fell in love with Zack...oh, she was quite upset with the next episode!

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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:36 pm

not that I fell in love with Zach....but he was sooooo special and part of the lab....
i liked him a lot....so logical and brilliant minded!
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhit
sorry....
how upsetting
Booth dies,but not really and Brennan does not even cry....then thiss Mad Mad Mad Mad

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Post by revi Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:42 pm

"....Brennan does not even cry..."


How about that whole scene right after Booth got shot? She is praticaly oozing out emotions of turmoil and fear holding on to Booth while he is bleeding out?

Brennan isn't an emotionless being. She is filled with feeling from that episode "girl in the fridge" to this. It just takes a lot to break down her walls that she contains in all in.
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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:27 pm

I know! I loved that moment w (when Booth is on the floor, wrong place though in real life he would have broken his neck on the stairs!)...but then wt the funeral, when she is so "cool", too much.,..I did not like that.And then...again..I would have added a few tears,that would have been enough.Nothing "explosive" I mean, but more.

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Post by amethyst Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:31 pm

you see, she reacts fine when she learsn about Zach....teary eyes, contenment but her heart you can see!!! Booth should be there clearly too, especially in this season----just my opinion

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Post by revi Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:53 pm

Also realize that the "funeral" was 2 weeks after Booth got shot and we don't know what happened to her in between. Her reaction to Zach just like earlier to Booth was a visceral reaction, during the heat of the moment before she compartmentalized it all in.
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Post by RGPageantqueen Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:23 am

It was 2 weeks? Wow, thats a long awaited funeral. Granted, it was fake, but still...
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Post by amethyst Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:14 am

OK.
OK.
I see. It is just that I thought it would be an excellent occasion to show herself towards Booth in a different way.
What a season ending my GOd!

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Post by RGPageantqueen Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:16 am

In a way she does. She isn't going to make out with him while he bleeds to death. But then again, after reading... well never mind. Wrong place, wrong thread! Smile
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Post by revi Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:22 am

That's not fair, he would not stop making out with her even if she was bleeding...


Oh wait, nvm.
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Post by amethyst Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:24 am

wrong thread? did I do anything wrong?

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Post by dawnsfire Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:43 am

No--I believe she meant what she was going to say belonged in another thread.

As for Brennan, she is a tightly controlled person; it takes a lot for her to fall apart. She got teary-eyed when Max & Russ left, she was screaming at Booth to stay when he got shot. The way I see it is that 2 week period gave her time to try & rebuild her walls and regain her composure--the Ice Queen of the Jeffersonian thing--but you're right, El, it should have triggered some random thought that things aren't what they appear (plot bunny!). The timing of the whole Zack thing--well, we only saw her when suspicion was rising and when she was telling Booth and then the very end when it actually sank in and she's feeling guilt for her perceived role in it. We don't really know what happened in between scenes. Tons of fanfics with what we THINK she might have done, or felt, though.


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Post by amethyst Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:53 am

AMEN

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Post by RGPageantqueen Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:11 am

Can you point me in the way of those fics, Dawn?
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Post by RGPageantqueen Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:12 am

revi wrote:That's not fair, he would not stop making out with her even if she was bleeding...


Oh wait, nvm.

You know what I'm talking about I can see.

And no, Amethyst, I meant I was going to say something than realized it didn't belong here, and I didn't want to get in trouble. Wink
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Post by amethyst Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:55 am

Laughing ok!
I am so happy I found this forum

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Post by RGPageantqueen Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:58 am

We are happy you found us.
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Post by dawnsfire Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:24 pm

RGPageantqueen wrote:Can you point me in the way of those fics, Dawn?
No problem...they're all from ff.net. I pulled some specific story links (including my own--why should Rob be the only one tooting his own horn?), but for more, there's a couple things you can do. 1) do a search. "Pain in the Heart," "Wannabe in the Weeds," the abbreviations, pull up more than 2 pages of results. Nothing from the collections of oneshots, of course. Mad 2) go to the Bones page, choose All ratings, then jump to about p174 or so (probably pushed back a little, depending on how many new stories are added) and browse away.

[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (actually takes place right after PitH, so plenty of references)
[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (AU--if Booth’s assignment went longer)
[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (this one written before PitH aired, so no fake funeral)
[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (mostly Zack references)
[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (AU beginning--they don’t go straight to the lab)
[Only admins are allowed to see this link]

There’s at least one where Booth sneaks out of the safe house and sees her standing on the edge of her balcony, but I haven’t found it again. Let me know if you find that one.

And there’s my own:
[Only admins are allowed to see this link] (just a quick glimpse through Sweets’ eyes)
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Happy reading!

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Post by RGPageantqueen Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:05 am

Wowza! Thats a lot!
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Post by THX1138 Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:31 am

revi wrote:Brennan isn't an emotionless being. She is filled with feeling from that episode "girl in the fridge" to this. It just takes a lot to break down her walls that she contains in all in.
That's a good point but IMO it's not even that. It's something Booth and Angela see in her, that maybe no one else sees because they just don't know her well enough. Brennan was probably never one of those people comfortable expressing herself emotionally - recall in Woman in Limbo she's talking to Angela about Russ and how there were times she'd be in school and the only words she'd say all day were "Polo" in response to his "Marco". That's not the sign of someone who's an outgoing person.

Brennan was, and is, naturally reserved. The sheer hell that Max and Ruth/Christine put her through by abandoning her and Russ, then Russ compounding the issue by abandoning her to foster care, only served to reinforce her quiet nature. Once in foster care Brennan learned that no one cared if you were crying, worse, it drew attention to yourself that you didn't want, it marked you as weak, as someone who could be taken advantage of, it made you a victim. So little Tempe learned to control her emotions, to compartmentalize, to rationalize, to elevate intellect over feeling. Those walls that we always talk about, they're a defense mechanism, partly natural, partly learned, partly intentional. We can see them being reinforced during her college years. College is a time that functions in part as the social developmental equivalent of "grad school" for most people (when we transition from restless children to restless young adults) Brennan threw herself into the role of serious student with an emphasis on heavy course work, in effect retarding her social development further and letting life pass her by.

The shy, quiet, reserved 15 year old girl who's precocious intellect and social awkwardness already marked her as an oddball among her peers became, after three years in hell plus the rigors of academia, the "Ice Queen of the Jeffersonian" (gotta love that phrase Dawn). Quiet became cold, shy became furtive, and reserved became robotic, and yet for all practical purposes Brennan was emotionally still a 15 year old girl when he met her, her development having arrested at the time she entered the system. It's to Booth's credit that he can see past her mask to the still tender hearted little girl beneath, and more so that he's spent the last four years helping her evolve into a more mature, emotionally speaking, woman.

Thus we can see that her reaction during his shooting isn't unremarkable, and her coldness after wards is to be expected. By the time Booth was shot by Pam Nunan he'd come to be more than just a friend to her, he was an emotional mentor, a confidante on par with Angela, and in many respects the dominant male figure in her life filling all roles from surrogate father/brother (until they both returned full time) to suitor. The prospect of losing him would have shattered all of her walls, ended any pretense of detachment and containment/compartmentalization would have been impossible. Following his "death" she would have reverted to the only thing she knew that worked and withdrawn to her "pre-Booth" persona.

Zach's betrayal was less a shock to her system and more a wound to her pride, IMO, in that she saw in him a kindred spirit and doted on him as a surrogate mother. His betrayal was all the more keenly felt because she tried to serve the same role in his life that Booth served in hers, and she sees herself as failing him. Yet she's not unemotional at his loss, she feels in keenly - so keenly that only Booth can help her deal with it.

Honestly the WITH and PITH episodes are, in my concerted opinion, grounds for Lance Sweets to lose his license as a psychologist, he obviously has no clue who his patients are and at that time he'd had them in session for months - I think BLC did it best (of course) when she wrote her own version of the aftermath, [Only admins are allowed to see this link].

Anyway, enough of my ramblings. Just thought I'd share a few thoughts.


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Post by DBCrazy Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:39 am

^^ Reading all that makes me realize that I kinda like psychology, at least the amateur supposition kind, not necessarily the clinical "let's fix you" kind! Very interesting read.
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