Re: Archive #25

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:38 am

ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...

The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain whjile they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.

by Fluffernutter Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:38 am

I was thinking as I was writing "Wow, you're going to sound insane and cultish." But it's just what I believe.
What is your faith, magic?

by ToZiKa Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:39 am

jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...
The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain whjile they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.

but at least we are trying...

by Polygirl Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:39 am

jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...
The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain whjile they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.

very true we like to fix things guys go more with the flow

by ToZiKa Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:40 am

Polygirl wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...
The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain whjile they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.

very true we like to fix things guys go more with the flow

yeah but mostly because they don't care what happens around them

by Polygirl Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:40 am

jonezy

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:42 am

ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:I have lost that "life is fun" thing temporarily and being flat-ass broke doesn't help. But now it makes me observe my friends and see how fixated they are on every stupid thing that comes out. They have to have it immediately if not sooner. I suppose I'll snap right back into that when things improve. Then I'll be keeping a running shopping list of toys.
I don't understand why men need all this things....
If you think about all the useful things you could get with the money...

There is a fundamental driving principle for the male mind. It is the goal to be kept in the decision making process at all times. It has been called "efficiency" or "bang for the buck" but basically the goal of every man is to get as much as he can for as little exerted effort as he can. Whether it's a car or a nuclear power plant or a woman - he is looking to have the maximum benefit with the minimum investment. New tools and gizmos and toys always hold the promise of getting closer and closer to that ultimate desire. Total satisfaction with zero effort.

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:43 am

i know its your faith..but i do find these rituals strange and fasinating all at the same time...and i am an atheist fluff...i have my own faith..in family and friends and love..i dont personally believe i need any other rituals other than hugs and kisses from my kids..knowing i am doing a good job as a parent and they are well looked after..i dont personally believe i need a god to tell me im a good person..i have my family for that...just my opinion of course...religions are a fasinating topic to me..and i love hearing about different faiths and such x x

and sweets i disagree slightly on men making the mess..lol..in my relationship..i am chaos...he is the one ith his head screwed on tightly..and sorts me out!!!!

by phoebsfan Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:44 am

by all this reasoning I'm a guy... hmm... nope still a girl.

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:46 am

lol..i was thinking the same thing pheobs....i must be a guy!!!...i am so indesisive that he makes all important desicions in our house....

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:46 am

ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...
The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain while they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.
but at least we are trying...

I knew that would come out of somewhere. And yes the effort does make a positive impact. But guys already have a part of them that believes they are supposed to be able to conquer everything, fix everything, be everything and that is a fatal flawed thought that leads to ultimately surrendering in despair to be insufficient to the task, It's the poi9nt of diminishing returns. After a certain level of effort no more effort produce any more positive result. We have Entropy to contend with and it will never lose.

by ToZiKa Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:47 am

jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:I have lost that "life is fun" thing temporarily and being flat-ass broke doesn't help. But now it makes me observe my friends and see how fixated they are on every stupid thing that comes out. They have to have it immediately if not sooner. I suppose I'll snap right back into that when things improve. Then I'll be keeping a running shopping list of toys.
I don't understand why men need all this things....
If you think about all the useful things you could get with the money...
There is a fundamental driving principle for the male mind. It is the goal to be kept in the decision making process at all times. It has been called "efficiency" or "bang for the buck" but basically the goal of every man is to get as much as he can for as little exerted effort as he can. Whether it's a car or a nuclear power plant or a woman - he is looking to have the maximum benefit with the minimum investment. New tools and gizmos and toys always hold the promise of getting closer and closer to that ultimate desire. Total satisfaction with zero effort.

so you have no cahnce to avoid buying all this things....it's genetic...poor men...

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:47 am

i just say...whatever!!!!..and go with the flow..the only area i control and sort stuff out is my job...the rest is all him

by phoebsfan Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:48 am

i just like having new toys.

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:49 am

i love new stuff...but gadgets bore me...i would rather new household stuff or clothes!!!

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:50 am

ToZiKa wrote:
Polygirl wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
ToZiKa wrote:
jonezn4Bones wrote:
magicstar wrote:marty loves his gadgets..he has to buy them as soon as they come out!!!..i think it is a man thing..or is that just a bad steriotype..he is like a kid with a new toy!!!
No. It's pretty much universal.
men are just kids in an older covering...
The real observant among you (ie. not poly) will see that boys are in no hurry to grow up and be responsible for the world and its mess. Girls, meanwhile, are in a race to prove how quickly they can grow up and have all the fun sucked out of life and then complain whjile they try to clean up the futile mess the "boys" know isn't ever going away.

very true we like to fix things guys go more with the flow
yeah but mostly because they don't care what happens around them

They care too much and because they can not roll the boulder up the hill they eventually resign to avoiding wasted endeavors and effort. Experience takes one form enthusiastically taking on the challenges to one day finding that the challenges have gone on ahead without you. They remain virile while you weaken and die. Rosy picture, huh?

by phoebsfan Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:50 am

see... and I don't think I discriminate. Toys are fun to play with... Clothes are nice to wear... household stuff is useful... it's all good.

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:51 am

hmm sweets..lets not get down..im in a good mood today..its getting all a little serious....men are just men..and we love them..

by ToZiKa Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:52 am

magicstar wrote:hmm sweets..lets not get down..im in a good mood today..its getting all a little serious....men are just men..and we love them..

right. at least most of the time....

by Polygirl Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:52 am

I would rather spend money on books or stuff for the horse

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:53 am

magicstar wrote:i know its your faith..but i do find these rituals strange and fasinating all at the same time...and i am an atheist fluff...i have my own faith..in family and friends and love..i dont personally believe i need any other rituals other than hugs and kisses from my kids..knowing i am doing a good job as a parent and they are well looked after..i dont personally believe i need a god to tell me im a good person..i have my family for that...just my opinion of course...religions are a fasinating topic to me..and i love hearing about different faiths and such x x

and sweets i disagree slightly on men making the mess..lol..in my relationship..i am chaos...he is the one ith his head screwed on tightly..and sorts me out!!!!

Well of course. The calmest men I have ever met are the fathers of multiple daughters. Between the wife and his girls he has seen and encountered every imaginable rel and contrived drama. You have to be able to compartmentalize and sort what is essential and needs to be dealt with NOW ans what can wait - sometimes, for ever.

by magicstar Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:53 am

and we love how they love us....and wrap us up in their arms...and love us even more after kids have ...mishaped us..lol...i love how they still love us when we have been a total bitch to them in a hissy pms moment...awww..i just love what a man can offer!!!

by phoebsfan Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:53 am

books are one of my weaknesses.... but I don't have a horse thus horse things probably not so great... though I do love spending money on other people.

by jonezn4Bones Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:54 am

phoebsfan wrote:by all this reasoning I'm a guy... hmm... nope still a girl.

Had to check, though didn't ya'? Maybe they just never distended?

by ToZiKa Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:54 am

Polygirl wrote:I would rather spend money on books or stuff for the horse

I already spend too much money on books.
Sometimes I read 5 or 6 a week....and I'm not even working yet....

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