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Yeah, just in case... lol.
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- I just hope it doesn't hurt the relationship for long...
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19ana89 wrote:Yeah, just in case... lol.
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I just hope it doesn't hurt the relationship for long...
Exactly. And I don't think it can 'cuz it would change the dynamic of the show.
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Meegs82 wrote:19ana89 wrote:Yeah, just in case... lol.
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I just hope it doesn't hurt the relationship for long...
Exactly. And I don't think it can 'cuz it would change the dynamic of the show.
No.
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- Peter leaving = bad things
Heck, anyone leaving = bad things
I'm gonna be frank...
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- I personally think that Olivia and Peter are whiney asses. I mean, OK Walter did tests on you as a child. We get it! MOVE ON. And Peter. I don't have any examples on mind at the moment, but he whines a lot too. I feel like Olivia and Peter are more anti-Walter than they are pro-Walter.
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bones206 wrote:
I'm gonna be frank...
I personally think that Olivia and Peter are whiney asses. I mean, OK Walter did tests on you as a child. We get it! MOVE ON. And Peter. I don't have any examples on mind at the moment, but he whines a lot too. I feel like Olivia and Peter are more anti-Walter than they are pro-Walter.
(not using spoiler tags here because aired episodes are fair game to discuss)
Actually, no. Sorry, but that's kinda something you don't just get over, particularly after you just found out. In Fringe timeline, there wasn't a summer hiatus: Liv just found out about her cortexiphan insanity; Peter just found out his father attached electrodes to him and turned the power on -and this is after a childhood spent with a man who pretty much went insane and destroyed his and his mum's peace of mind. It's the equivalent of telling someone who's been mentally/physically abused (in more conventional terms), to get over themselves. Again, no. Sorry, but no.
All things considered, I think Olivia's done pretty well (some people think she's a robot. LOL). Peter...I'll wait and see after the next episodes.
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- Although being kidnapped across dimensions is certainly going to, at the very least, royally piss him off. I mean... Someone on the Fringe board compared Peter to a closed adoption case, and no, man. Not even close. That shit was kidnapping. For good reasons maybe, and maybe at first, but still, he kept the kid, he pays the price. Walter's gonna have to deal with what he did.
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Meegs82 wrote:19ana89 wrote:Yeah, just in case... lol.
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I just hope it doesn't hurt the relationship for long...
Exactly. And I don't think it can 'cuz it would change the dynamic of the show.
You know,
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- from the spoilers we're getting, I think at first he's gonna be really pissy and well, freaked out, omg!Wouldn'tyou? .lol. Maybe he'll even get pissy with Liv for not telling him ipso facto. But as it goes on, I think he might come around to Liv's side without necessarily making up with Walter -at least 'till the season finale. Which is gonna make working in the lab so awkward and uncomfortable, it's gonna be BSG's third season all rolled into a couple of episodes.
Also, I found the Noble interview!! I think the link is at the Fringe Forum but for those of you who don't visit, here it goes. (TAKE NOTE: Mild spoilers for the rest of the season): [Only admins are allowed to see this link]
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Very interesting...
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- Do you guys think P&O will eventually hook up? Not anytime soon of course, but eventually?
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heirofloki wrote:bones206 wrote:
I'm gonna be frank...
I personally think that Olivia and Peter are whiney asses. I mean, OK Walter did tests on you as a child. We get it! MOVE ON. And Peter. I don't have any examples on mind at the moment, but he whines a lot too. I feel like Olivia and Peter are more anti-Walter than they are pro-Walter.
(not using spoiler tags here because aired episodes are fair game to discuss)
Actually, no. Sorry, but that's kinda something you don't just get over, particularly after you just found out. In Fringe timeline, there wasn't a summer hiatus: Liv just found out about her cortexiphan insanity; Peter just found out his father attached electrodes to him and turned the power on -and this is after a childhood spent with a man who pretty much went insane and destroyed his and his mum's peace of mind. It's the equivalent of telling someone who's been mentally/physically abused (in more conventional terms), to get over themselves. Again, no. Sorry, but no.
All things considered, I think Olivia's done pretty well (some people think she's a robot. LOL). Peter...I'll wait and see after the next episodes.
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Although being kidnapped across dimensions is certainly going to, at the very least, royally piss him off. I mean... Someone on the Fringe board compared Peter to a closed adoption case, and no, man. Not even close. That shit was kidnapping. For good reasons maybe, and maybe at first, but still, he kept the kid, he pays the price. Walter's gonna have to deal with what he did.
Ah well. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.
However,
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- I do agree that this was not an adoption case. It was kidnapping and Walter will have to deal with the consequences. But I don't think that Peter should be forced to go back to the other side. It's his decision to make, not anyone else's.
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heirofloki wrote:
You know,
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from the spoilers we're getting, I think at first he's gonna be really pissy and well, freaked out, omg!Wouldn'tyou? .lol. Maybe he'll even get pissy with Liv for not telling him ipso facto. But as it goes on, I think he might come around to Liv's side without necessarily making up with Walter -at least 'till the season finale. Which is gonna make working in the lab so awkward and uncomfortable, it's gonna be BSG's third season all rolled into a couple of episodes.
Also, I found the Noble interview!! I think the link is at the Fringe Forum but for those of you who don't visit, here it goes. (TAKE NOTE: Mild spoilers for the rest of the season): [Only admins are allowed to see this link]
I can definitely see that happening as well.
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- I can see it taking A WHILE for Peter to understand what Walter did and coming around to forgiving him. Meanwhile, he warms back up to Olivia a lot faster, even if they don't go down the romantic road. After all (if this is how it goes and it kinda looks like it will be), she merely kept the secret from him...it's not like she had anything to do with the actual kidnapping. She's just kinda caught in the middle of this family problem and being rational, Peter will realize this and forgive her LONG before he forgives Walter.
At least that's my take! Oh, and LOVE the BSG S3 reference, heiro!
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Oh, and on the "Olivia has done pretty well/robot" note...I find it funny people say that, but at the same time, she really is due for a nervous breakdown. I have said this OVER and OVER again at the Fringe Forum, but the woman seriously needs to just lose it. After everything that has happened to her recently (not to mention the stuff from her past...Cortexi-kid and all), she could not remain sane withOUT breaking down. And I wanna see it. Anna Torv does, too. I want hysterics, tears, yelling, hyperventilation...all...out...BREAKDOWN. Or at least a mini-breakdown...a few tears to show that she isn't a cylon, haha. I guess the only way I can see that happen is if
BTW, heiro, do you post over on FF? Haven't seen your sn.
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BTW, heiro, do you post over on FF? Haven't seen your sn.
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Meegs82 wrote:Oh, and on the "Olivia has done pretty well/robot" note...I find it funny people say that, but at the same time, she really is due for a nervous breakdown. I have said this OVER and OVER again at the Fringe Forum, but the woman seriously needs to just lose it. After everything that has happened to her recently (not to mention the stuff from her past...Cortexi-kid and all), she could not remain sane withOUT breaking down. And I wanna see it. Anna Torv does, too. I want hysterics, tears, yelling, hyperventilation...all...out...BREAKDOWN. Or at least a mini-breakdown...a few tears to show that she isn't a cylon, haha. I guess the only way I can see that happen is if
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Peter leaves when he finds out. If he gets so angry and leaves without telling anyone, she will lose it...she's just got to.
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- But if Peter leaves and she has her "breakdown", who'll be there to comfort her? Charlie's dead, Walter is... well, Walter, Astrid and her don't really know each oher... She'll be alone. And she can't tell her sister about it. lol
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I know, it'll be heartbreaking
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HEY! CYLONS CAN CRY WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THAT?!
*uhm hello, capslock of outrage, how are you today?*
But no. I'm okay with her not having a total break down. Wasn't she in the Corp? Marines don't break down! . Seriously though, I don't want her to go all blubbery. I love that she handled John's death with such ... god, the only word I've got for it is accuracy. I... maybe it's because I'm used to people being able to handle their emotions in extreme situations (and Olivia, with her past, should have that ability down pat. I'll say it again, she's no Sydney: She's been to hell and back with her family -and she actually remembers it!), but I have no need whatsoever for blubbery Olivia.
I do want to see
Meegs, I don't post there. Don't even lurk there much anymore. Stupid academia is stupid. And time consuming as fuck. >> *is tired*
*uhm hello, capslock of outrage, how are you today?*
But no. I'm okay with her not having a total break down. Wasn't she in the Corp? Marines don't break down! . Seriously though, I don't want her to go all blubbery. I love that she handled John's death with such ... god, the only word I've got for it is accuracy. I... maybe it's because I'm used to people being able to handle their emotions in extreme situations (and Olivia, with her past, should have that ability down pat. I'll say it again, she's no Sydney: She's been to hell and back with her family -and she actually remembers it!), but I have no need whatsoever for blubbery Olivia.
I do want to see
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- Peter's parents, especially his mum (who better be alive on the other side, y'all!!). She can totally come apart at the seams when she finds out about her baby all grown up.
Meegs, I don't post there. Don't even lurk there much anymore. Stupid academia is stupid. And time consuming as fuck. >> *is tired*
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heirofloki wrote:HEY! CYLONS CAN CRY WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THAT?!
*uhm hello, capslock of outrage, how are you today?*
But no. I'm okay with her not having a total break down. Wasn't she in the Corp? Marines don't break down! . Seriously though, I don't want her to go all blubbery. I love that she handled John's death with such ... god, the only word I've got for it is accuracy. I... maybe it's because I'm used to people being able to handle their emotions in extreme situations (and Olivia, with her past, should have that ability down pat. I'll say it again, she's no Sydney: She's been to hell and back with her family -and she actually remembers it!), but I have no need whatsoever for blubbery Olivia.
I do want to seeOh, that'd be an epic breakdown I'd buy tickets to watch!
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Peter's parents, especially his mum (who better be alive on the other side, y'all!!). She can totally come apart at the seams when she finds out about her baby all grown up.
Meegs, I don't post there. Don't even lurk there much anymore. Stupid academia is stupid. And time consuming as fuck. >> *is tired*
Allow me to rephrase...she's not a CENTURION. That better?
Oh, I don't want blubbery Olivia either, 'cuz that's not HER. What I want is just a single scene where she loses it. I don't want to see her continue to be that way, but come on, how much can a human being take? I don't care HOW strong she is or if she was a Marine. There is seriously only SO much a person can take and I think she's getting close to reaching her limit. She's strong yes, but also VERY bottled up...and I think something needs to pop open that bottle...let the champagne come pouring out as the cork flies across the room! Okay, that was kind of a weird metaphor.
Anywho, we know that she CARES about her job, about Peter, about Walter, about everything going on, so now I want to really SEE it. She needs to get emotional...just once to show that as strong as she is, she still needs a good old-fashioned meltdown every once in a while.
P.S. Excellent point about Sydney. She really was the emotional rollercoaster while also being incredibly kick-ass. As much as I loved Sydney, I don't see (or want) Olivia going down the same path either. She's different, but she's also human.
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Oh, Liv, you didn't. Oh, Liv...Oh, god.
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heirofloki wrote:Oh, Liv, you didn't. Oh, Liv...Oh, god.
To which part are you referring? Her telling Walter that she's decided not to tell Peter?
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Meegs82 wrote:heirofloki wrote:Oh, Liv, you didn't. Oh, Liv...Oh, god.
To which part are you referring? Her telling Walter that she's decided not to tell Peter?
Yep. That one is gonna come back to bite her in the ass. Big time.
Funnily enough, my brother (with whom I watch the show a second time on skype ), was going all "Oh, no, she doesn't love him anymore 'cause he's from another universe??!" Who knew he cared? Heeh. Proof enough that there's a dormant benchwarmer in all of us. lol
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I didn't like the fact she didn't tell Peter either because of THAT reason. lol. But I see why she didn't... She doesn't want to lose him.
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19ana89 wrote:I didn't like the fact she didn't tell Peter either because of THAT reason. lol. But I see why she didn't... She doesn't want to lose him.
I kinda love that she didn't tell him because she's afraid to lose him (Benchie moment # 4337 of the season, ladies and gents. ), but oy, it's so gonna come back to her. And in the worse way possible, too, I reckon.
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19ana89 wrote:Yeah. Then what is she gonna do, when it does?
Two words: BREAK. DOWN. That's what she's gonna do! And yup, I'm gonna just keep on pushin' this agenda!
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But you know he's gonna find out sooner or later...she's gonna regret not telling him now.19ana89 wrote:I didn't like the fact she didn't tell Peter either because of THAT reason. lol. But I see why she didn't... She doesn't want to lose him.
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Yeah, I know... I know roughly when he does find out... It's just sad to think about...
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What?! No one has anything to say about the heart-breaking adorableness of this past episode? Really? Was I the only one who wanted to give Walter a hug when Peter said that line about not being in-line with his destiny? I was watching with my bro and we both bursted laughing (and then I got all for Walter).
Also, *sadness!* I have to travel to Backward!Country! this coming Thursday. I'm not being colorful either (or racist, I was born there, I can call it whatever I want ), so internet access will be... likely not good enough for me to watch the epis. I'm missing three weeks of Fringe, y'all!!
(and yes, that is the one thing I'm most worried about. Not war or disturbingly high criminality. No, missing Fringe -that freaks me out *facepalms*)
Also, *sadness!* I have to travel to Backward!Country! this coming Thursday. I'm not being colorful either (or racist, I was born there, I can call it whatever I want ), so internet access will be... likely not good enough for me to watch the epis. I'm missing three weeks of Fringe, y'all!!
(and yes, that is the one thing I'm most worried about. Not war or disturbingly high criminality. No, missing Fringe -that freaks me out *facepalms*)
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Bummer! And the next one looks really good! Thank goodness for Hulu and other streaming video sites!
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Oh, we are all still here and have stuff to say, I'm sure of it, heiro! I actually missed this one and didn't get to watch it til Sunday night 'cuz I've been out of town. I'm with ya on the destiny line with Peter. Walter says that deja vu means that you're lined up with fate and you are exactly where you're supposed to be. Well, after Peter said he had never had a deja vu moment, my hubby said "that's 'cuz he's never where he's supposed to be." Exactly. And that is the sheer brilliance of these writers.
And the whole letter thing with Walter...I just KNEW that one of those times he was going to destroy it. But now, he can't get out of not telling Peter 'cuz he has his sign...the white tulip. This is about to get VERY interesting...and I can't wait.
And the whole letter thing with Walter...I just KNEW that one of those times he was going to destroy it. But now, he can't get out of not telling Peter 'cuz he has his sign...the white tulip. This is about to get VERY interesting...and I can't wait.
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