A Perfect Murder
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Re: A Perfect Murder
Yeah, my old middle school science teacher had alot to say about pig skin and it's likeness to ours. But maybe she was just a fan of pigs...?
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Re: A Perfect Murder
I'd say body-hiding too, where would you hide a body?
If you were covering up, I wouldn't use a knife either, too much chance of DNA transfer.
If you were covering up, I wouldn't use a knife either, too much chance of DNA transfer.
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Re: A Perfect Murder
squirtandmilo wrote:Yeah, my old middle school science teacher had alot to say about pig skin and it's likeness to ours. But maybe she was just a fan of pigs...?
My bio teacher had an obsession with geckos, so it's more than likely!
I think my sisters was about the transplantation of pig heart valves into humans, but this was three or four years ago that I read it, so my memory of it may be a little foggy.
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clairebear_nz wrote:I'd say body-hiding too, where would you hide a body?
If you were covering up, I wouldn't use a knife either, too much chance of DNA transfer.
Plus the whole, weapon to dispose of properly. But you could always just dump in in a bucket of bleach.
I've always fancied the idea of barrel hiding. But I think it would be to messy. Maybe weight it and dump it out in the ocean? If you could feasibly do that.
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squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:I'd say body-hiding too, where would you hide a body?
If you were covering up, I wouldn't use a knife either, too much chance of DNA transfer.
Plus the whole, weapon to dispose of properly. But you could always just dump in in a bucket of bleach.
I've always fancied the idea of barrel hiding. But I think it would be to messy. Maybe weight it and dump it out in the ocean? If you could feasibly do that.
Maybe the whole thing, weapon as well, into a barrel of bleach, then out to sea. As long as you had a boat. Or else maybe the entire body into a pig pen, then the bones through a concrete mixer...
Assuming you had the resources, of course.
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clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:I will never get over the Newton Meters one. Gad that made me laugh so hard...
And the Phenolphthalein one. Ha-ha...
I know, whenever I see that episode I start bouncing up and down going "Newton metres is the unit for torque! Not force!"
Last time I checked we didn't swing our arm out in an arc when we stab someone! Or maybe isn't just me who stabs things with an up and down motion...?
Men stab overarm, women stab underarm, if thats what you mean? The arc stabbing on the visual is funny though.
Is that true? That men generally go overarm? Do you think it's cause they are normally taller than their victims...assuming that men are always stabbing women or short men...
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clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:I'd say body-hiding too, where would you hide a body?
If you were covering up, I wouldn't use a knife either, too much chance of DNA transfer.
Plus the whole, weapon to dispose of properly. But you could always just dump in in a bucket of bleach.
I've always fancied the idea of barrel hiding. But I think it would be to messy. Maybe weight it and dump it out in the ocean? If you could feasibly do that.
Maybe the whole thing, weapon as well, into a barrel of bleach, then out to sea. As long as you had a boat. Or else maybe the entire body into a pig pen, then the bones through a concrete mixer...
Assuming you had the resources, of course.
Or through a wood-chipper and then into a bucket of bleach...
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Although a wood-chipper would be hard to clean, you would have to freeze first...that could be potential problematic, you'd need one large freezer if you didn't want to dissect first.
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squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:I will never get over the Newton Meters one. Gad that made me laugh so hard...
And the Phenolphthalein one. Ha-ha...
I know, whenever I see that episode I start bouncing up and down going "Newton metres is the unit for torque! Not force!"
Last time I checked we didn't swing our arm out in an arc when we stab someone! Or maybe isn't just me who stabs things with an up and down motion...?
Men stab overarm, women stab underarm, if thats what you mean? The arc stabbing on the visual is funny though.
Is that true? That men generally go overarm? Do you think it's cause they are normally taller than their victims...assuming that men are always stabbing women or short men...
I swear I heard it somewhere, it could be the height difference or else simply because they're naturally stronger in the shoulder than women would be so find it easier to stab overarm and it may deliver a more powerful blow or hit at a better angle.
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I think we should do some research...
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squirtandmilo wrote:Although a wood-chipper would be hard to clean, you would have to freeze first...that could be potential problematic, you'd need one large freezer if you didn't want to dissect first.
Hmm...I guess it depends on the person, but maybe with creative folding you could squash it into a chest freezer, ala Desperate Housewives.
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squirtandmilo wrote:I think we should do some research...
I am researching, so far I've found some journal articles but they're in German and well...I don't have the journals or speak German.
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clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:Although a wood-chipper would be hard to clean, you would have to freeze first...that could be potential problematic, you'd need one large freezer if you didn't want to dissect first.
Hmm...I guess it depends on the person, but maybe with creative folding you could squash it into a chest freezer, ala Desperate Housewives.
You would have to do that before rigor set in though, otherwise you could have some issues.
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clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:I think we should do some research...
I am researching, so far I've found some journal articles but they're in German and well...I don't have the journals or speak German.
Yeah I was looking up the AJFS, damn I really need that subscription.
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squirtandmilo wrote:clairebear_nz wrote:squirtandmilo wrote:Although a wood-chipper would be hard to clean, you would have to freeze first...that could be potential problematic, you'd need one large freezer if you didn't want to dissect first.
Hmm...I guess it depends on the person, but maybe with creative folding you could squash it into a chest freezer, ala Desperate Housewives.
You would have to do that before rigor set in though, otherwise you could have some issues.
Or after rigor...but...yes
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God, now I have a visual of someone trying to stuff a body in full rigor into a chest freezer...Ha-ha.
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Oi Fi. We lost all our bookmarks at home, could you post that bear paw/human hand comparison one again? Please.
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I'll just find it, that was cool....I can send you a link to "Practical Homicide Investigation" but I'll do that over something else because it's a bit icky.
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Ahh. Icky-smicky. Just put a precursory warning and people should avoid.
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This is dead-people-murder-photos icky.
Human feet/bear feet comparison.
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Human feet/bear feet comparison.
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Sweet! That is such a good one. Haha. Although I don't really know how people can't see the difference...
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I guess if it was partially buried or dark or you had a particularly vivid imagination, you could be mistaken!
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Ha-ha. Like us. Vivid enough. I guess if you were in the dark, or poor light and you were tired, or if you just glanced at it you could mistake one for the other.
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Re: A Perfect Murder
You guys... you're s-s-ss-sscaring me!!!
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space wrote:You guys... you're s-s-ss-sscaring me!!!
Ha-ha Space! You should have read us going at it over in the screencaps thread. I think we made Cheese angry...
Reading over that again Fi; I don't think F. Anthro and vivid imaginations really go together very well, especially if you are mistaking bear paws for human hands! Haha. Can you just imagine...
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